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The University of Lahore couple's crime was being too happy for Pakistanis

The University of Lahore couple's crime was being too happy for Pakistanis

We have way more to worry about than a young couple in love.
18 Mar, 2021

Two consenting adults hugged at the University of Lahore and Pakistan went mad. Half the country wanted the couple and everything they purportedly stood for gone — premarital love? In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan? Not on their watch! — while the other half idolised them as warriors for love.

But why do they have to be either? The couple in question hasn't spoken up after the 'incident' — some very obviously fake Twitter accounts in their names notwithstanding — and have been lying low since their expulsion. We've made them into crusaders for a cause but has anyone asked if they want to be the poster-children for love in Pakistan?

But whether they like it or not, Pakistan is talking about the "incident". Videos uploaded on social media showed a young woman handing roses and cards to a young man and then bending down on one knee and holding out a bouquet of roses to him. He takes the roses and then pulls her in for a hug. A crowd of students surrounds the couple and cheers them on. Everyone from politicians to celebrities is talking about it.

And apparently, when a video on social media goes this viral, even the government will take notice. The Ministry of Human Rights Parliamentary Secretary Lal Chand Malhi recently called the University of Lahore’s decision an “overreaction” and asked the varsity to re-admit them. That the government officially intervened is shocking in itself — most ministers' preferred form of action is taking notice via Twitter — but that it stood up for an unmarried young couple is even more noteworthy.

The university says the couple violated Section 9 of its General Discipline Rules and Code of Conduct. Unlike other varsities, the University of Lahore doesn't publish these rules online, but Pakistani universities have a poor track record with allowing students the liberty to express themselves.

Malhi called the university's action "moral policing" and said deviant behaviour should instead be regulated through counselling, noting, however, that such services were mostly not provided by university administrations.

The letter noted that the personal freedoms of the right to marry and propose at will are guaranteed by Pakistani laws and the Constitution, as well as international covenants. The university's "extreme action" has sent a critical message that it could not tolerate and accept two students proposing to each other, wrote Malhi.

One of the biggest arguments online against the couple's expulsion was that the university hasn't taken action against teachers accused of harassment but pounced on this opportunity to flex its authority. Why was a couple hugging more abhorrent to the University of Lahore than harassment? Online, people began bashing the couple and argued that they should get married before hugging. They're ignoring the fact that they were punished for a public proposal. In our experience, most proposals are for marriage.

Amid all these conversations, we seem to have missed something pretty major — a young woman broke barriers for proposing to a young man. In a society where men are expected to make the first (and only) move, we should be applauding her for being brave and going after what she wants. Instead, we turned her into a villain and ruined her future.

Pakistan, we have so much more to worry about. Our Covid cases are rising and violence against women continues unabated. National outrage over an expression of joy is both unneeded and unwarranted. Would we have preferred that he wasn't happy about being proposed to?

The Ministry of Human Rights said, "Both the girl and the boy did not commit such a heinous crime for which they were punished severely and expelled from the university." Their crime, it seems, was being too happy for Pakistanis.

Comments

Fastrack Mar 18, 2021 04:21pm
How about "two consenting adults" go 2 two steps ahead, and..? The line is not ours to draw, my friend. It is His.
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Fastrack Mar 18, 2021 04:22pm
Every country including the US has limits of what one can and cannot do in public. If ours are not okay with you, the door is open.
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Fatima Mar 18, 2021 04:28pm
'Too happy for Pakistan...'?? Why bash my dear Pakistan?? Because that's easy to do for low IQ people?? Or because it houses and cares for people like you?? What a shame!!
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Vijay B. Mar 18, 2021 04:34pm
Bravo! to the subject young couple and the girl especially for breaking traditional barriers and being the one to propose. Pakistanis need to come out of their medieval mindset and join the modern world. It won't hurt you, the rest of the world under the new mores, is surviving very nicely thank you. "Pyar kiya to darna kya."
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Bilal Ahmed Mar 18, 2021 04:35pm
What they did in public if should have been done in close circle of friends and family was not objectionable, but the University Management ,no doubt over reacted- might be under pressure of reaction by conservative segment of society.
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Ghaznavi Mar 18, 2021 04:37pm
Their crime was promoting vulgarity and ignoring our religious and cultural values. This is not as simple as the editor is trying to put it. Vast majority of Pakistanis are religious and few imoral people lead by a newspaper read by one percent Pakistanis cannot put the nation onto satanic path.
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Desi Mar 18, 2021 04:51pm
I don’t think the problem here is a young couple in love. Surely people are not against it. Public display of affection (PDA) is what is causing all this uproar. Ours is a repressed society. We are taught to keep our feelings hidden and don’t show emotions.
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Imran Mar 18, 2021 04:53pm
When something normal or good happens it is taken away, this is an example of how the "spirit" of Pakistani's is broken.
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Afaq Mar 18, 2021 04:54pm
Every society has it norms. What is acceptable in one society may not be accepted to other. Hugs, kisses and more intimate love gestures in western societies may be considered an ordinary act of displaying happiness. But, in Pakistan which was founded on distinct religious ideology, showcasing love at public place should not be seen merely as an act of 'being too happy for Pakistanis'. There has to be a limit to the extent widely accepted by Pakistani society. If the society does not know its limit, it can not determine what is right or wrong and what is acceptable and what is not.
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THE Mar 18, 2021 04:59pm
Are you kidding me? The only issue was public display of affection.
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Kaly Mar 18, 2021 05:03pm
Extremely back dated mindset...stone age...
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Iqbal Aswani Mar 18, 2021 05:11pm
So much so in the name of tolerance. Tolerate hugging couple in public. Next, tolerate kissing in public (already tolerated for married ones). Next tolerate live-In relationships. Next, tolerate a generation without wedlock. O yes, keep on tolerating. After all these are "human rights".
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Haseeb Mar 18, 2021 05:13pm
And there are far more critical isssues to write on than this non-issue
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It's me Mar 18, 2021 05:21pm
"Two consenting adults" didn't follow the rules of modesty and being "two consenting adults" doesn't give them a right to portray the culture that is not in line with the Creator's commands.
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Parvez Mar 18, 2021 05:23pm
The university over reacted to a situation that should have been handled with tact ..... in short the university administration needs a course in " small crisis " management. This incident needs introspection and not a stubborn bureaucratic attitudes....Pakistan is suffering enough due to it.
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Faizan Elahi Mar 18, 2021 05:28pm
A young girl breaking stereotypes by making the first move is probably the best thing I have seen on the internet in quite some time.
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Ibrahim S Mar 18, 2021 05:37pm
It’s a cultural revolution, someone had to start it.
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Chaze Manhattan Mar 18, 2021 05:38pm
University is not a medium for hugging, loving, or mating. Their expulsion is warranted and it is unfitting for government to intervene and take sides. What's wrong is wrong. Their expulsion is supported. Do the hugging outside the sacred walls of the institution. Don't make it a platform of wrong doing for other students.
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Memon Abdul Mar 18, 2021 05:47pm
The "Islamic" Republic of Pakistan, it never fails to surprise us does it? Is there not a never ending list of social evils that we fail to address and take action against on a daily basis? What about the inability of the students to be able to defend themselves legally for having exercised basic freedoms? Who has actually been thought the constitution of Pakistan in schools and the rights and freedoms it allows us? I would go on but then I don't have forever...
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Ahmer Mar 18, 2021 05:48pm
Actually no. Their crime was to show their love in the premises of an educational institute. I don think educational institutions are meant for these type of activities.
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Abu Mar 18, 2021 05:51pm
Hugging was objectionable not proposing. If display of affection through physical gestures is okay then up to what extent? A lopsided article.
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Paddy Mar 18, 2021 05:57pm
What a country.
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Captain Mar 18, 2021 05:57pm
Totally annoying n disgusting incident
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well-wisher Mar 18, 2021 06:06pm
Human Rights of PK is right and punishment too severe. Restore rights and dignified freedoms in PK Society. Thank you govt. for respecting human rights.
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kp Mar 18, 2021 06:24pm
Only if they would have talked about Jihad or elimination of minorities, They would have been branded as heroes. But all they did was speeding Love and happiness, no wonder mullhas and their supporters are not happy.
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Fazal Karim Mar 18, 2021 06:40pm
i am sure our society will not tolerate even married couple hogging in a university or park. under burqa cover you can do any thing.
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Ehaan Mar 18, 2021 06:40pm
Well put
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Zeeshan Mar 18, 2021 06:42pm
No crime but why should we celebrate an action considered bayhayaee in Islamic injunction? The consent logic is western liberal one and why it is being used in Pakistan? Poor kids shouldn't be expelled but counselled to keep these things inside char dewari
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Sarmad Mar 18, 2021 06:47pm
The idea of consent aside (not sure everything can be justified under one umbrella of consent) but the main issue has been the cultural clash this incident highlighted. In a different culture, it would've been completely acceptable but I guess at some point we have to start thinking about the fact how much of this cultural shift is going to be acceptable to the masses. Things done in private life versus publically have very different implications. I have always been a strong believer that Pakistanis are far more closely associated with their culture than religion (the only portion of religion acceptable to majority is the bit embedded in culture ). The cultural identity has been a beautiful aspect of life in Pakistan while growing up and I still think it'll be nice to have it maintained. Jury's out.
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Mani Mar 18, 2021 06:59pm
Religion and State affairs should be made separate. Pakistan’s 74 year old history is in front of us. Nothing good has been achieved cause of Pakistan being an Islamic state. It’s only caused ills like extremism and terrorism.
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Zartaj Gul Mar 18, 2021 07:06pm
Our culture is going to Dogs. We must fight for our religious values before these liberals ruin things beyond recognition.
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Just Saying Mar 18, 2021 07:07pm
Is happiness Jaiz in Pakistan?
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Jay Mar 18, 2021 07:13pm
Country's public representatives are busy in their or infightings. They hardly ever talk about helping to resolve their voter's everyday problems. Hugging in public should be decided according to the law of the land and Islamic law together. If we call ourselves Islamic Republic, then men and women ( non-Mehram Adults) are not allowed to hug ( publicly or privately). They should be penalized if they break the law. In other words these matters can not be decided based on public reaction. Ideally there should be set of rules in place and be communicated to people ahead of time otherwise be ready to deal with chaos.
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YKZ Mar 18, 2021 07:17pm
Dear, the punishment by the university may be termed as harsh but we should try to understand that this is not an EU or US society where such public acts are not discouraged. We do have our own culture and societal norms which differentiates us from the western culture. The very purpose of the creation of this Islamic Republic , after a long struggle with sacrifices of countless human lives and properties by our forefathers, the Muslims of Sub-continent, would go in vain if such things were allowed or supported to take place publicly.
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Zeeshan Ahmed Mar 18, 2021 07:21pm
Pakistan has far worse morality problems, so why the selective punishment?
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Feroze Khan Mar 18, 2021 07:29pm
I wish that our people will get out of these petty things and pay more attention to making Pakistan a strong nation. If things like hugging a friend, even a female friend , is the downfall of a country than entire Europe and Americas would have fallen in the ditches, yet they continue to prosper and continue to offer countries like us financial, technical and help in the health sector on a daily basis. Most of those photographed holding placards probably do not even know what are these events all about. I support the young lady and the young man in their public display of affection.
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Pakboy Mar 18, 2021 07:58pm
New generation just wants to go viral. There was no such philosophical motive behind their action that they must be praised.
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Faisal Zia Mar 18, 2021 07:59pm
are you people insane. What kind of a proposal is this in which you showcase it publicly. After some time i think people will be saying let people make babies publicly, that is also a form of love.
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Faisal Zia Mar 18, 2021 08:00pm
After some time lets discuss if making babies publicly is ethical or not.??
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Misnomer Mar 18, 2021 08:09pm
When you are doing something publicly then it’s not only limited to you, your actions is actually paving ways for a hundreds of thousands in line. So, it’s better to nip the thing in bud. Though not supporting the extremism of university management. They both should publicly apologise for their act and get married ASAP.
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Qaiser Mar 18, 2021 08:14pm
I fully endorse the decision taken by the university....this PDA is totally forbidden in our islamic society and hence should be discouraged at all costs.
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Rabia Saeed Mar 18, 2021 08:25pm
I don't know what is wrong in publicly proposing someone. If the issue is hugging then why politicians are allowed to hug and shake hands with foreign diplomats/ officials? Actors also hug on stage so why these double standards for general public and celebrities??
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Rick Mar 18, 2021 08:26pm
We are only talking because these kids belong to wealthy families, if this was someone poor they would be beaten up by police and locals.
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Chrís Dăn Mar 18, 2021 08:34pm
You know in a family of ten children-each of 10 kids believes fully that he and his 9 siblings fell straight from sky to the lap of their mom in some dark nights. This is Pakistan. A family with 6 kids lives in one small room -keeps on producing kid after each 9 month and thinks already existing kids sleep in some opium all the nights- hear nothing.This is Pakistan .Hypocrite people.
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Mohsin Jat Mar 18, 2021 08:43pm
What if their happiness goes to the next level in public? I wonder if that would be acceptable.
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Shahid iqbal Mar 18, 2021 08:50pm
Step to stuck out is partially wrong because parents have a trust on her daughter .after this incident parents from all over tbe country are in thinking they allow their daughters to uni for study specially in Rular areas.
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Shoaib Manzoor Mar 18, 2021 09:10pm
Well done university of Lahore,
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Shoaib Manzoor Mar 18, 2021 09:10pm
Great
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Dr. Ahmed Mar 18, 2021 09:28pm
@Zeeshan Ahmed This is typical 'whataboutism' Two wrongs don't make one right. What does other societal problems have to do with this? All are bad. Your mindset is typical of many ppl unfortunately. ''Oh look at the other person, he's a thief while stealing something'' Come on, grow up!!
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Dr. Ahmed Mar 18, 2021 09:35pm
@Shahid iqbal This is exactly the problem many people forget. Who will get affected by it? girls from poor rural background. I know its so sad!
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Waqas Mar 18, 2021 10:42pm
How about a word called ‘indecency’ in academic institution - the beacon of moral societies
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ADIL Mar 18, 2021 11:58pm
Honestly speaking ,this private matter should have been done privately , the way the young love birds showed their love was not appropriate . They should have known that they live in utterly dumb minded society .
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Rahul S. Mar 19, 2021 12:11am
@Fastrack You are a backward thinker. I see no hope for your country.
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Vin Mar 19, 2021 12:13am
@Zartaj Gul Which and whose religious values?
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Ketan Mar 19, 2021 12:17am
@Iqbal Aswani just like you all tolerate the rape and sexual abuse comitted to the children in your country
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jaredlee007 Mar 19, 2021 12:25am
I wish the university was really concerned about providing clean washroom facilities, clean drinking water, well mannered and well educated teachers, and a safe learning environment.
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Indoaryan Mar 19, 2021 12:34am
Why do this sort of show on university campus ? There are other places , more private and away from mobile cameras where they could do whatever to their heart's content. I think they are looking for cheap popularity . When on university campus rules will apply, if you don't like it ... Leave !!!
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Rafi Mar 19, 2021 12:43am
Those who are offended should not hug their loved ones in public. It's that simple. Do not argue that only your values are Pakistani, and the values of the hugging couple are not Pakistani. Accept that everyone has the right to make their own decisions. Just live and let live.
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Ibrahim S Mar 19, 2021 12:46am
@Shoaib Manzoor next make burqa compulsory , a great moral achievement . Any civilized country will offer them scholarship to continue their education . Rest will cry grapes are sour.
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Omar Khan Mar 19, 2021 01:33am
@Ghaznavi If you got a Visa to go to the U.s.a, U.K or EU you would jump on that opportunity to go to these Lands where they practice this Open minded Culture! But here in Pakistan you want to Suffocate our Youngsters!! Such Hypocracy!!!
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Ather Mar 19, 2021 01:46am
Well a girl proposes a boy to get married. Under which law they intent to get married and how does that law views this act of hugging! You missed to cover that while making them heros for people of pakistan.
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RationalBabu Mar 19, 2021 03:50am
@Mohsin Jat what makes you think they would have taken it any further? That doesn’t happen anywhere - let alone Pakistan!
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Sensible Mar 19, 2021 04:31am
Even in UK and other Western countries there are clear rules that restricts any acts that are seen as too private , same is true for offices not meant for open romance. It's strange that we as a conservative society go two step further than liberal societies when trying to liberate ourselves and everyone has to support it to be seen as " progressive"
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GK Mar 19, 2021 04:35am
It is the Pakistani mindset that is amazing in the world.
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THE MORNING STAR, MD. Mar 19, 2021 04:37am
The University took a very harsh action ; a reprimand would have been enough.
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HashBrown® Mar 19, 2021 04:56am
@Iqbal Aswani "Next, tolerate a generation without wedlock." This is what suppressed societies produce - people who think that a hug leads to living out of wedlock. Often these are the same Pakistanis who are also desperate to leave the country so they can enjoy the liberal culture of another land instead.
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Hamza Alam Mar 19, 2021 05:31am
As muslims we have our own culture, traditions, high morals and family values...there is no need to emulate the western societies and regard this as progressive and modern. This couples public behaviour was cringeworthy and definitely not a good example to set for our future generations.
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Usman Khan Mar 19, 2021 05:57am
Sad people hate others being happy.
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Ria Mar 19, 2021 06:02am
There is a reason this type of things are not acceptable in public. The fools who say nonsense about love and are making them their heroes are the biggest consequences of this hugging stunt. Next thing we know adulterous relationships will be totally fine cause they signify "love ". I think that the university 's actions were totally warranted.
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Hassan Mar 19, 2021 07:20am
What about PDA?
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Zulfiqar Mar 19, 2021 07:30am
@Afaq great comment !
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Cholas Mar 19, 2021 08:24am
@Sarmad This culture that you talk about did not exist 30 years back. You can look as far back as several centuries but it was a more liberal society.
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Wajeeh Mar 19, 2021 09:05am
What they have done is absolutely wrong. It should have been a private event in front of a few friends and family and not to be staged in front of the entire university. I think its a made up show just to gain popularity in social media but eventually back-fired.
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YKZ Mar 19, 2021 09:23am
@Chrís Dăn so you mean everything be allowed publicly?
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Ali Vaqar Awan Mar 19, 2021 09:33am
Girl proposing boy, nothing wrong with it. Doing public display of physical affection was wrong as it's before marriage. They are adults and free to marry each other.
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Mirza Mar 19, 2021 09:54am
I think if they love so it’s there issue and worry, why expel them.
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Abrar Mar 19, 2021 10:36am
So now this is new normal now, Recall sometime back some one did something similar during an award show, but ofcourse we have more important issues to discuss than this.
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Chrís Dăn Mar 19, 2021 10:44am
@YKZ anything which laws permit needs to done comfortably .
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Chrís Dăn Mar 19, 2021 10:54am
@Omar Khan exactly.
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Ikramuddin Akbar Mar 19, 2021 11:29am
کیا یہ داتا کی نگری میں ھو رھا ھے؟
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Talha Mar 19, 2021 11:32am
Not every act is designed to be performed publicly. That's the very basis of human society. Secondly, there are LIMITS for a reason. These limits define us as different from animals. Thirdly, all the 'enlightened' folk should understand that it is also a human right to have opinions. Finally, this is the most biased, myopic piece I have ever read and sadly, nothing surprising.
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Ikramuddin Akbar Mar 19, 2021 11:33am
@Bilal Ahmed What segment of the society do you belong?
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Qamar Ahmed Mar 19, 2021 11:39am
If the girl was so mad for the boy, should've told her parents as the islamic code of ethics allowed it. But doing it so publicly like non-muslims not allowed even in our culture what to say of Divine One.
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Abdullah Mar 19, 2021 12:12pm
University of lahore made the best decision,we youth stand with it. Pakistan has its laws and regulation, get the hell out of pakistan if you want to go against it.
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Munsif Jan Mar 19, 2021 12:21pm
@Afaq Everything goes in Pakistani society as long as it's done discretely. Sexual exploitation of poor women and children is common but no body wants to talk about it because of the false sense of morality.
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Aafia Mar 19, 2021 01:07pm
PDH (hatred) is acceptable ? more acceptable ?
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Zainab Ahmad Mar 19, 2021 01:10pm
Of course people are mad because unlike you uncultured people we dont want to live in a shameless country ! Go and live in Europe if you want this sort of valgarity to be seen publicaly...
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ykz Mar 19, 2021 01:12pm
@Chrís Dăn Did the Muslims of Subcontinent sacrificed countless lives and properties to create such type of culture in the society? Surely not. Why should other sensible students be compelled to watch such acts in the campus when occurred publicly?
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Wajiha Zainab Mar 19, 2021 01:38pm
Sick arguments!
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ykz Mar 19, 2021 02:10pm
@Fastrack - Just a good point
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ykz Mar 19, 2021 02:10pm
@Fastrack - sensible point, borther
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rzm Mar 19, 2021 02:14pm
Nothing wrong with a public show of affection by two consenting adults. I believe the garbage and hate people spew is a mirror to their own dirty mind. So for those complaining and taken back by this public display of affection, please focus on your personal lives and leave happy people alone!
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ykz Mar 19, 2021 02:15pm
@Chrís Dăn - dear, which law of this Islamic Republic by the way permits such things?
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Billa sheedi Mar 19, 2021 02:16pm
He was just happy to see her, girls getting down on their knees and proposing is a first in the world, we lead in something in Naya Pakistan.
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ykz Mar 19, 2021 02:19pm
@Mirza - dear, Whatever we want can't be done done publicly in the society. There are moral, ethical, legal and religious boundaries for humans to follow. We are not living in the western society.
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ykz Mar 19, 2021 02:29pm
@kp - Islamic Republic of Pakistan was not carved out of United India to create such society.
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Iqbal Bhai Mar 19, 2021 03:04pm
I am sorry I beg to differ. University is an educational institution. It has a decorum and a disciplinary code. The students have violated that code. They are free to love each other but Public Display of Affection (PDA) is wrong particularly in a university.
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Arshad Ali Mar 19, 2021 03:05pm
Being a muslim, being pakistani and being modest people we ve some limits. Which must not be crossed. Its not the way to propose someone in public what she wants to pretend before people. I don't know why people relate one problem with other.
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El Cid Mar 19, 2021 03:32pm
@HashBrown® "...people who think that a hug leads to living out of wedlock..." You got it in reverse, as to what came before, before this staged cringe worthy exhibitionist stunt.
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El Cid Mar 19, 2021 04:03pm
Love, grace, decorum - this was not it. Perhaps advancing years, despair, desperation, was. True love would have stood united, called out the 'Inquisition', not hide from it.
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Thuthhurts Mar 19, 2021 04:18pm
@Ghaznavi You had wrong my friend. Vast majority of Pakistan is immoral and pathetic. With few a simple, religious and tolerant people who had no problem with this
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Thuthhurts Mar 19, 2021 04:20pm
@Ahmer I suppose there are multiple things happening in the educational institutions as well. Do reflect on that
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Thuthhurts Mar 19, 2021 04:22pm
@Abdullah You are no flag bearer of Pakistani youth. Keep your opinions limited to your own being
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Thuthhurts Mar 19, 2021 04:26pm
@Ria hah! You're talking like adulterous relationships are currently non existent. If you believe that, the you have no right to comment on this one.
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Munsif Jan Mar 19, 2021 04:40pm
It is a sad and troubling fact about the Pakistani society that people don't care about the sins and crimes as long as they are done in secret. Fakeness and falsehood is encouraged and honesty and openness is frowned upon.
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Akil Akhtar Mar 19, 2021 05:11pm
@Imran Really...is this rubbish the spirit of Pakistan.....feel sorry for putting such low value on our spirit.
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Akil Akhtar Mar 19, 2021 05:13pm
I have heard that a large number of parents threatened to pull their children from the university if these two were not removed....I guess masses have spoken....against a very very small minority justifying such nonsense.
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Akil Akhtar Mar 19, 2021 05:15pm
@Rahul S. We are better off without such rubbish hope.
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Anonymous Mar 19, 2021 07:14pm
Well said!
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Taha Mar 19, 2021 10:56pm
@Fatima you're very right
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Ali Saeed Mar 19, 2021 11:50pm
I agree with the decision to suspend the students. This is humiliating for Pakistanis. Proud of being Pakistani.
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A. ALI Mar 19, 2021 11:59pm
Had government chose to stay silent then media will be grilling govt... Nonetheless, as requested earlier either we should remove the word Islamic Jamhoriya from our country name else follow what Islam taught us? Difficult? Impossible? Or we are hypocrites? We are hypocrites. Barring Islam what else made us condemn such act? Our social norms? Yes.
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A. ALI Mar 20, 2021 12:01am
@Desi had she been your sister? Or daughter? Give me an honest reply, dont hide.
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YOUSUF Mar 20, 2021 10:17am
Their crime was promoting vulgarity and ignoring our religious and cultural values. This is not as simple as the editor is trying to put it. Vast majority of Pakistanis are religious and few imoral people lead by a newspaper read by one percent Pakistanis cannot put the nation onto satanic path.
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Tayyiba Mar 20, 2021 11:45am
Half of our issues will be solved if we start putting ourselves in the next person’s shoes before we troll them. But neh, it’s easy to humiliate people instead of accepting and justifying why they did so
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Bilal Amjad Mar 20, 2021 01:47pm
Ok. Please stop! They are students, and that place is a University. One, its against the decorum of the place second, out of 220 Million population, 215 Millions have values of their own that are deep rooted in the Islam. If not anything else, I would suggest these other 5 Million people to co-exist with the others. Not to challenge the majority.
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Naved Ahmed Mar 20, 2021 02:22pm
Certain actions are required to be stopped because it'll be harmful to the society, no matter if it's with consent or not.
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Chrís Dăn Mar 20, 2021 02:55pm
@A. ALI so you are a supporter of"Honour killing" instead of human rights?
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Chrís Dăn Mar 20, 2021 02:59pm
@ykz Pakistan was not carved out for you to vote looters and immoral political dynadties ,to start unchecked child abuses,to kill women in name of honour also. You need to pay attention on your corrupt life styles first.
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Arch Mar 20, 2021 04:13pm
Their crime was violation of Islamic law in Islamic republic of Pakistan. Stop trying to normalize western atheistic immorality in pakistan.
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warda kainat Mar 20, 2021 04:38pm
@Vijay B. sorry bro but as a muslim state it is not appropriate to do such things ,religion dont allows it
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Omar Mar 20, 2021 11:08pm
@Chaze Manhattan this sense of morality is absurd. There's nothing wrong with hugging in public.
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Omar Mar 20, 2021 11:18pm
@Fazal Karim religious principlew should be kept aside from human rights. In the western hemisphere that's understood. Religious principles should only be implemented by free will, not by mandate
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Gaffer Mar 21, 2021 08:40am
Nothing wrong with it a girl has the right to choose her partner as boy as theright
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Ghaffar Mar 21, 2021 03:09pm
I have a question for the liberals advocating these student's public proposing and hugging. Will they support their daughters and sisters for public proposing and hugging?
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Umar Shahzad Mar 21, 2021 06:25pm
Today they hugging in public and then tomorrow what. Love is always between two people and should be in heart.
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Farooque Fahad Mar 22, 2021 06:48am
Malala gets what Malala wants this is the type of education she’s spreading throughout the Muslim world, immorality premarital matrimony not our values the boy is a serial Romeo exemplary punishment should me meted out or has islamic republic of Pakistan been replaced by Naya Pakistan?
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KAZIM REZA Mar 22, 2021 05:29pm
Unfortunate hue and cry!
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Abdul Hadi Mar 22, 2021 08:35pm
Good morning
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