Images

Khalil Ur Rehman, please sit

Khalil Ur Rehman, please sit

Unnerved by the slogan 'My body, my choice', his latest outburst includes swearing at Marvi Sirmed on live television.
Updated 14 May, 2020

It's almost midnight and I am mindlessly scrolling through social media after a long day at work. The notification pings green as there is a viral video circulating on my work chat.

One more talk show, I mutter under my breath, as I hit play. What follows is a one of the most shameful sights Pakistan has ever witnessed on national television.

During a discussion surrounding Aurat March, writer and director Khalil-Ur-Rehman Qamar, known for his intolerance of women, is preaching his views. He is angry that the court has denied the petition to halt the movement, and women will now march for their rights.

Amidst this very anger, he is blatantly abusing guest Marvi Sirmed on the show, shredding the same izzat he advocates for, through the use of repulsive and obnoxious slurs.

While losing his cool, he says, "*What's in your body? Who the hell are you, go look at your body and face; no one even wants to spit on it. Don't talk in the middle, don't talk in between the lines. What is your body, bibi? Don't talk no bloody nonsense. you bloody shut up. B**ch!"

Sirmid, simply chants "mera jism, meri marzi" (my body, my choice) in the background, repeatedly, with determination, unmoved. The man is then triggered and proceeds to call her a ghatiya (vile) and badtameez aurat (disrespectful woman) as well as ullu ki pathi.

By now, I am fuming. I have stomped around my house five times, and the anger has now built like a whirlpool in my head – ready to explode. If you work in journalism, there are some protocols that need to be followed - eliminate the cuss words, work around to blur the abuses and slurs. We are left in a conundrum - it's tricky to translate the video for our audience.

Ironic, right? As a woman my work, my colleagues, and my entire organisation will be scrutinised under a moral compass if I am to merely TRANSLATE the words of a man, who has shamelessly vomited them out on national television.

Also read: Tahira Abdullah schooling Khalil Ur Rehman Qamar on feminism is giving us life

Between all this, host Ayesha Ehtesham dismisses Sirmed, and says "Marvi sahiba, please, decorum ka khayal rakhein." (Ms. Marvi, please be mindful of the decorum).

However, based on the limited backlash on social media (we say limited because you'd be surprised by how many people actually support Qamar's views), Ayesha has since apologised for not condemning the director's sexist and outright abusive remarks.

Executive director for the news channel has also said sorry but the damage has already been done.

He really crossed the line this time

Why is a man like Khalil Ur Rehman Qamar invited to speak on a talk show regarding women or Aurat March? Has he contributed anything to their struggles? Has he been an ally to their problems? Has he provided them with anything but humiliation in the form of derogatory terms?

Sometimes indirectly through his dramas calling them 'do takay ki' aurat (worthless woman), and this time directly, on their face, through words such as "b**ch."

Remember, this is the same guy who said that if women want equality, they should go kidnap and gang-rape men.

What is hillarious is that this is the same confident man who, in his demeanor, claims to raise Pakistani society to the highest moral levels of co-existence, compartmentalises women into good and bad – bahaya aurat, behaya aurat, and does this by yelling, and I quote “ullu ki pathi, badtameez aurat, teri aisi ki taisi".

His behaviour in the above video is terrifying to say the least, not to mention triggering for the countless women who are subjected to this vitriol in public and behind closed doors.

If a man is this fearless in his delivery of profanity in front of millions of people, during a recorded show, forever archived, one wonders the extents of violence he could resort to when he doesn't have an audience - where there is no one recording him, no one mediating his conduct, and where he knows his actions and words will have zero consequences.

It's sickening that talk shows are no longer breeding grounds for productive discussions that could advocate for for safety, education and respectful co-existence in society. Instead, they have been are turned into entertainment platforms for harassers and unhinged men to openly threaten, discredit and disrespect women.

More so, it is shameful, that under the guise of an intellectual conversation, the host Ayesha Sohail (Ehtesham) invited a female guest on her show, only to participate in her humiliation. “Marvi sahiba please, aap apni baari pe baat karengi” (Ms. Marvi please, wait your turn to speak), she schools Sirmed, as the man continues to spew vulgar words at her, his aggression building up with every passing minute.

There are a lot of things that could've been done to halt this discomfort. The conversation could be cut short with the onset of an advertisement, the man could be muted for hate speech, or asked to control his own nafs and calculate the burden of his words on national television.

Yet he was let loose – like a venomous animal ready to shred apart the woman across him with no remorse.

You cannot help but ponder if perpetuating a heated debate at the cost of someone’s reputation is just another low tactic to rack up views and ratings in an industry that is constantly looking to capitalise on the next ‘hot topic.’

When you provide an obviously disturbed man to spew hate speech with a platform like this, you become part of a greater problem – a problem that is currently trending on social media for the rest of the world to see.

There are men lauding Mr. Rehman for abusing women. These are the same men, who holding the celebrity on a pedestal, believe it is completely acceptable to resort to violence, if they need to ‘teach the woman a lesson.’

Need I remind you, that Pakistan is the highest number of documented cases of honor killings, in the entire world. Need I also remind you, that the subject of this violence, are women and women alone.


If a man is this fearless in his delivery of profanity in front of an audience, during a recorded show that can be pulled out to show him the mirror at any given time, one wonders the extents of violence he could resort to behind closed walls; where there is no one recording him, no one mediating his conduct, and where he knows his actions and words will have zero consequences.


For Mr. Rehman and anyone who believes mera jism, meri marzi is a "ghatiya naara" (disgraceful chant), let me break it down for you one last time. The slogan represents bodily autonomy. It urges women all around the world to reclaim the rights to their own bodies. To stand up against marital rape, forced pregnancies in constant hope of birthing a boy, and female genital mutilation that takes place behind closed doors.

It means that women should have the freedom to walk on the streets, stand in tandoor lines, and use public transport without having their body parts groped or touched. That they should not be blamed for ‘inviting’ rape because their breathing has suddenly aroused a frustrated man around them.

If you think the slogan is equated to parading naked in the streets, it is transparent that the actual nudity lies in your own thoughts. Purify it.

If you are treating the women in your life right, you will not be threatened when they ask for their rights. It is only those who are hypocrites and sleazy in their double standards, who go off and resort to violence, both verbal and physical, when they realise the other gender are not subservient pawns.

If we had it our way, this would be the last post we publish about Khalil-Ur-Rehman Qamar, because he is done having our attention. We're redirecting our energy towards writing an email to PEMRA in order to urge them to take due action.

It's about time powerful men are held accountable for their actions.

Comments

saad Mar 04, 2020 03:42pm
I am with Khalil ur Rehman Qamar on this issue
Recommend (0)
MK Mar 04, 2020 03:43pm
Unjustified post. Should see the both sides before concluding this
Recommend (0)
Kashif Siddiqui Mar 04, 2020 03:49pm
He should be banned from talk show appearances. Period.
Recommend (0)
RIZWAN AHMED Mar 04, 2020 03:55pm
Well i read the first paragraph.. from that this is simple you are baised. you didn't tell the audience that Marvi sarmid interrupted and this is it. she call her liberal but not ready to listen the views of opposition. hell on. what he said and she said boht are disgusting.. and same to you.. love you...
Recommend (0)
Hina Kamal Mar 04, 2020 03:58pm
It is not Khalil ur Rehman's fault. Exactly like when you know there is a fire, you add water to it not oil. This game that the media plays with our society is SICK. He is not known for his "good thinking approach" towards women which is VERY APPARENT then why on earth would the channel call him. Did they expected a miracle, the media gave him this power. You address the power first. It is media's fault in particular this channels. It highlights that as a media representative you are not eligible to access the outcomes of your program unless your outcome was circulation and popularity. You have aced that one indeed.
Recommend (0)
Shabi Mar 04, 2020 04:02pm
He is the worst writer I have even seen in Pakistan history. What he is promoting through his drama is absolutely against our culture and creates negativity.
Recommend (0)
M. Saeed Mar 04, 2020 04:04pm
Khalil ur Rehman Qamar is a confirmed nasty person and should be thoroughly proscribed by all fields of his activities. It is surprising why the live show was not immediately stopped and apologies announced immediately on air. I feel sorry for the baffled Ayesha Ehtesham for being frigid in horror of the occasion.
Recommend (0)
Awamun Naas Ki Adalat Mar 04, 2020 04:15pm
It has been firmly and undeniably established what KRQs views are on women and how toxic his personality is. We also know how proud and unapologetic he is about his views. None of this is hidden information by any means. These are facts accepted by all and sundry. Given these facts, it is now time to point fingers at the people who are continuously inviting him to talk shows and people who want to continue to work with him. We, the people, hold the power to bring him down to earth by way of disassociating and boycotting everything to do with him. Will he be given work if no one wants to watch his movies or his dramas? Will he be invited to talk shows if viewers change their channel as soon as they see his face? Think... When I know that snakes are poisonous but I still continue to play with them, who can I blame for getting bitten again and again?
Recommend (0)
ajaz Mar 04, 2020 04:16pm
didnt marvi sarmad abused him same way, in return?
Recommend (0)
Nusrat Mar 04, 2020 04:18pm
what a shame..... Qamar should go to school to learn etiquette
Recommend (0)
gul Mar 04, 2020 04:31pm
sirmed " mera jism meri marzi..." khalil ur Rehman " meri zuban meri marzi..." in this drama of meri marzi we are losing communal tolerance for each other ... both are at fault to me. fyi we know how lose tongued both individuals are, bad idea to have them sit together.
Recommend (0)
Anti-Corruption_Pakistani Mar 04, 2020 04:31pm
My advice to Khalil Ur Rehman is: be calm, don't get emotional and respect other people's views, as our final judge is only our creator! (Note: I regularly advocate my impartial views against injustice, inequality, oppression and nepotism without supporting any of the political parties. My family, country and people's well-being are far more important to me than anything else - be aware of fake ID's!).
Recommend (0)
Sahmad Mar 04, 2020 04:32pm
@Nusrat and his opponent too. Not that I am endorsing his views.
Recommend (0)
Usman Saifullah Mar 04, 2020 04:38pm
Firstly what ever this guy said or has been saying is utterly pathetic. Secondly how many have you seen Marvi Sarmad misbehaving with other guests on shows before??? So when it comes sharing your views do not just speak up against this guy but also how pathetically Marvi Sarmad has behaved before and both of them should not be invited to any show that is seen or heard.
Recommend (0)
Khurram Mar 04, 2020 04:38pm
One of the best writer got caught in cheap discussion. He is quiet capable of picking the right battles. Nevertheless he is human.
Recommend (0)
Khaled Mar 04, 2020 04:49pm
Very shameful, why is he invited on electronic media? where is PEMRA?
Recommend (0)
Adnan Mazher Khan Mar 04, 2020 04:50pm
The venomous words of KRQ are highly deplorable. He should be banned from all TV channels indefinitely.
Recommend (0)
Umer Zuberi Mar 04, 2020 04:55pm
Thanks to this guy I will not waste my time on any Pakistani drama anymore. First we need to purge such dispicable characters from media. He should be jailed for such kind of slander. Doesn’t look like he is given birth and raised by a women ..
Recommend (0)
Nazir Ahmed Mar 04, 2020 04:57pm
This person is very rude proved himself illiterate. Shame to him. There must a suo moto action against this nonsense person.
Recommend (0)
Khaled Mar 04, 2020 05:00pm
@Khurram Who said he is the best writer?
Recommend (0)
Beghairti March Mar 04, 2020 05:05pm
“No one ever notices when you’re being provoked, just when you retaliate”
Recommend (0)
M.Sethi Mar 04, 2020 05:11pm
Twinkle, twinkle little star how, I wonder what you are? I remember reciting this nursery rhyme as a kid at school. Today, my astonishment lies with little and big ‘stars’ being stud in my country by fairly large number of mushroomed foreign funded NGOs . One of my bewilderment which makes me ponder repeatedly is most popular slogan of today i.e. women’s emancipation and empowerment. These NGOs have sprung up in our country since over a decade, driving an agenda to liberate our women. I ask, liberate from what or whom? Pakistani women work shoulder to shoulder with the opposite gender in every walk of life, be it private or public sector, government offices, armed forces, judiciary, medical and nursing field, science and technology, media organizations, education and even as elected legislators of provincial and national assemblies, even the office of the Prime Minister at least twice.
Recommend (0)
Toni Mar 04, 2020 05:20pm
Disgraceful man, he does not represent men or Pakistan, though the issues for women subjected to harassment are there to be tackled, yet, how many more years, are we so uneducated Muslims.
Recommend (0)
Farhan Mar 04, 2020 05:20pm
Dawn will never publish comment which agrees but just try to restrict the meaning of Mera Jism Meri Marzee within Islam. What a pity?
Recommend (0)
Tariq Awan Mar 04, 2020 05:22pm
Ladies, unfortunately there is a lot of hard work ahead! But keep it up! There are a lot of sensible men out there who support you! Unfortunately, this mindset will take very long to change! I am equally dismayed on the way Khalilur Rehman is being appreciated on social media! However, make sure that these campaigns focus on sensitizing men than women and messages/ slogans are contextualized to counter negative propaganda of a good cause.
Recommend (0)
Asif Mar 04, 2020 05:26pm
This guy is pathetic. How can he be allowed to come on television and enter our lounges using disgusting language. The TV actors and actresses should boycott his plaus.
Recommend (0)
Ehtisham Mar 04, 2020 05:27pm
The way Khalil Qamar has expressed this is wrong but his views are not wrong. This slogan "mera jism, meri marzi" is wrong at so many levels. Is this what we want to teach our girls?
Recommend (0)
Saawan Mar 04, 2020 05:28pm
By the who used the "shut up" word first???
Recommend (0)
Cris Dan Mar 04, 2020 05:29pm
Who knows,Khalil may/is the general representative of male mentality in Pakistan? Who knows,how many millions women as daughters,wives, sisters are suffering quietly in hands of men like Khalil? Not only Aurat March is therefore necessary but more important thing is to follow it up with unity. Unity and combined struggle is the only way to deal with such men.
Recommend (0)
Nadeem Mar 04, 2020 05:30pm
He is begging for a lesson in person. Let someone give him, please!
Recommend (0)
abdulazizansari Mar 04, 2020 05:48pm
اسلام نے جو عزت و مرتبہ عورت کو دیا ہے مغرب میں اس کا تصور تک نہیں ہمارےمعاشرے میں مرد اپنے گھر کی کسی عورت کی طرف میلی آنکھ سے دیکھنے تک نہیں دیتا ایک مرد بیک وقت ماں، بہن، بیوی، بیٹی کا محافظ بھی ہے کفیل بھی ہماری عورتیں ہماری عزت اور ہمارا فخر ہیں یہ عورت مارچ محض ایک فساد ہے
Recommend (0)
Bangbang Mar 04, 2020 05:53pm
World class TV indeed.
Recommend (0)
Syed F Zaidi Mar 04, 2020 05:55pm
Shameful act displayed by both participants. The woman did start this by interrupting him but he also crossed the lines. Mera Jism Meri Merzi is a good movement but it's in the wrong hands. Every time movement loses it's TRUE meaning when it crosses the limits like it did last year in their march. Limit set by normal human standards of decency and family values.
Recommend (0)
Faiz Mar 04, 2020 06:07pm
And we wonder why we see less and less women in the streets.
Recommend (0)
Karachi Mar 04, 2020 06:11pm
This is the culture of current Pakistan, 'the action of Marvi and the reaction of Khalil'. We have seen a similar level of manners projected out of the mouth of the sitting in PM during Dharna times and probably even today. Why so much of a commotion on such petty issues.
Recommend (0)
shamim Mar 04, 2020 06:13pm
@Nusrat he has enough,maybe you should try being mature
Recommend (0)
shamim Mar 04, 2020 06:14pm
@Khaled i SAY
Recommend (0)
Aleem Baig Mar 04, 2020 06:15pm
Tue, Khalil ur Rahman crossed many a lines and was behaving no better than an unrefined, un-civillized man. That said, the lady did indeed make the uncivil mistake of talking out of turn and interrupting the man. Everyone has the equal right to voice his/her view and the host was right in asking the lady who was talking out of turn to wait for her turn. The host was right to repeatedly ask her, because it was this lady who had made the mistake of interrupting and talking out of turn while Khalil ur Rahman had started to talk.
Recommend (0)
Nationalist Mar 04, 2020 06:20pm
He and Marvi are two sides of the same coin.
Recommend (0)
Tahera Mar 04, 2020 06:29pm
The is abysmally and disgustingly disrespectful beyond words! It fulfils criteria of hate speech against women! He should be charged, tried and punished in a court of law! Insulting, degrading and spreading hate against any person or people (like for instance women) is a serious crime which needs to be punished to protect the weak and thereby strenthen society as a whole! We should realise that society is like a chain which is as strong as its weakest link!
Recommend (0)
majid Mar 04, 2020 06:36pm
Kudos to the writer for such excellent article. We stand by Ms. Sarmad and the organizers of Aurat March.
Recommend (0)
Rabia Saeed Mar 04, 2020 06:37pm
He didn't study code of ethics and writing now.
Recommend (0)
Farooq Mar 04, 2020 06:38pm
KRQ's words show how he thinks and what is inside him. I was sadly disappointed to see him go down so low. But again, we only know people when they speak their mind. A woman is a complete human being.... What he suggests by his repeated remarks is that a woman is just a usable body, and one without a pretty body is worthless. Again, his views are pathetic and he should not be given air time to disseminate those toxic ideas to public.
Recommend (0)
Kazim Mar 04, 2020 06:43pm
You cannot clap with one hand, can you?
Recommend (0)
ukasha rajpoot Mar 04, 2020 07:21pm
Khalil should be banned on all channels across the board. Epstein and Weinstein style people have no place in our society.
Recommend (0)
Hira Mar 04, 2020 07:23pm
Its sickens me to see how men are before they start abusing women. His scream and swears scare me to imagine being stuck in such a relationship where a man is ticked off just by a woman saying something he doesn't agree with.
Recommend (0)
Al Mar 04, 2020 07:31pm
All because there is a lack of education in Pakistan and therefore a lack of respect and tolerance. If this nation had invested in good quality education for all and (that does NOT mean English Medium people!) we would have a much more progressive nation where men and women were treated equally and on merit.
Recommend (0)
Naeem khan Mar 04, 2020 07:31pm
Khalil Ur Rehman qamar is the epitome of Pakistanis manhood, keep it up
Recommend (0)
Haider Khwaja Mar 04, 2020 07:32pm
This is disgusting. This reflects his upbringing. He MUST not be invited by any television talk show or anything.
Recommend (0)
Ponka Mar 04, 2020 07:34pm
@Khalid who are you to endorse that he is not?
Recommend (0)
Suhail Mar 04, 2020 07:40pm
I agree with comments from Awamun Naas Ki Adalat. I have analysed this person's personality and social interaction on screen. I am convinced that he is a psychopath ( definition: a person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior). I urge all to boycott his work and those who project his work.
Recommend (0)
Pakistani Mar 04, 2020 07:46pm
Disgraceful behaviour. We are Muslims in name only. Intrinsically we are a medeaval culture which adheres to rituals with paganistic zeal, abuses the weak, and (mis)uses a noble religion like Islam to gain power and control. Men like this illustrate this very well.
Recommend (0)
HonorBright Mar 04, 2020 07:48pm
You have made/raised a very important point: is media really interested in beginning a serious dialogue on the issue of women rights or is it all about cashing in on a hot topic without any altruistic designs to promote a culture of coexistence and tolerance...i guess the answer lies in the breaks
Recommend (0)
Iqbal Hussain Mar 04, 2020 07:51pm
Imbecile & simpleton Khalil ur Rehman Qamar must be banned immediately he does not deserve to again appear in Talk shows. Send him to learn etiquette, If he would have before me I never ever had allowed him to go. He needs lesson and ask general apology from women community.
Recommend (0)
Asim Mar 04, 2020 08:08pm
Ms Marvi Sarmad should not intervene in between. Its her fault and she gave him opportunity to expel all in his heart. We can agree or disagree with views of Mr Qamar but again he should have a right to talk if he is invited.
Recommend (0)
Dawn Mar 04, 2020 08:23pm
wow... that was totally unnecessary ..... by Marvi Sarmad
Recommend (0)
rauf Mar 04, 2020 08:23pm
@Khurram Qamar the best writer! vow, we need better standard to judge and need to read others more
Recommend (0)
Moez Mar 04, 2020 08:27pm
@Khaled I say it, any problem.... He is very capable and gifted writer in Pakistan. So just chill
Recommend (0)
Aafiyat Nazar Mar 04, 2020 08:36pm
Really shocking....abusing in live show....shows pathetic mentality.....
Recommend (0)
Waseem Mar 04, 2020 08:49pm
KRQ always shows his new low. Couldn't hear him even in a clip, how people bear him longer then that? He must be banned from media.
Recommend (0)
Amer Mar 04, 2020 08:51pm
The anchorperson also did not handle it well. Why did she let this guy go on after such Abusive language?? Difference of opinion is one thing but no one has the right to utter such abuses anywhere.
Recommend (0)
Azeem Mar 04, 2020 08:51pm
What our society and culture would have done if Marwi Sirmed had insulted Khalil Qamar the same way on a national TV talk show? These are the men who are not letting our country grow and glow. #VeryDarkDaysForPakistan
Recommend (0)
Uzair Mar 04, 2020 08:56pm
I think he thought that he was talking to some helpless and vulnerable female actress. This man is a shame to humanity, such people are becoming the idols for the ailing society. Very unfortunate and sorry future can be predicted.
Recommend (0)
Asad Rehman Barkat Mar 04, 2020 08:57pm
No one is talking Marvi provoked KRQ. She knew he would loose his temper if chanted the same slogan, he dislike the most. That's not the way, progressive debates should progress. How the hell can we talk, when there is no room left for talking? KRQs deep seated hate against such women, we sighted upon her provoking. Why he should be on TV show, becuase he is clearly on the opposite side of mjmmz narrative and 2 opposites must argue to defy the other. The definition of slogan is very good in the article but is the slogan being used for above reasons only? Please look around yourself u will get to know its misuse.
Recommend (0)
Dr. Doctor Mar 04, 2020 08:58pm
His point of view is right his way of expressing is not since he loses control easily. Marvi is the clever one here since she knew she could instigate such a response from him merely by cutting him off repeatedly. Khalil needs to tone down his ways to be heard but he expresses more anger than saner views since he feels that woman folk's staying within norms is now water under the bridge.
Recommend (0)
Tariq Mar 04, 2020 09:02pm
This kind talk shows never ends good. Even an ordinay person like me understand both violent guests mentality yet we channel never learn.
Recommend (0)
KeepInmind Mar 04, 2020 09:03pm
My dear fellows... Here I want to say.... Something.... Is aurat march really meant to represent all women and their problems in our society????? Do all educated women support aurat march....??? If not then why not?
Recommend (0)
Iqbal Mar 04, 2020 09:06pm
I condemn what has happened on tv show. At the same time I ask my respectable sisters, why should a woman use such derogatory language, “mera jism, meri merzi” and that it’s up to me to conceive or not, or to give birth to children as I want, and to keep relations with husband or not to? What lessons and ethics we are trying to teach our children. Women have a great respect both in our religion and society; please don’t degrade yourself.
Recommend (0)
Sal Khan Mar 04, 2020 09:07pm
@Khurram : to sum up, he is not a good writer or otherwise. He is looking to be famous in the shortest time possible by spewing hatred and profanity. Really sad that he himself is misguided by the idea of a good woman; what is a good man? He surely isn't one.
Recommend (0)
Ishtiaq Mar 04, 2020 09:28pm
I have watched the whole program. At the start of his talk, Qamar requested humbly fellow members to not interrupt him and let him finish his arguments first but Marvi didn't follow this established norm of dialogue. Having said that I believe Qamar's choice of words was inappropriate and he could have said in better words. He has all the right to express his feelings and opinion but it should not violate respect of other person. No doubt, his arguments are strong and compulsive. He should use respectable language though.
Recommend (0)
Rahul Mar 04, 2020 09:29pm
as if he own the society. Being a human hamari hesiyat hi kya hai... a simple virus(cant live on it's own) can wipe out whole population. But here it is people like qamar, woww.. i can endlessly curse him but i guess its futile..our society is replete of beasts like him.
Recommend (0)
Reality Check Mar 04, 2020 09:36pm
The host was completely siding with the abuser, KRQ. The maulana remained silent while the so-called writer really showed his true character, by using street language for a fellow presenter. Why is he even brought on TV shows?
Recommend (0)
Omair Mar 04, 2020 09:37pm
@RIZWAN AHMED . What has she said which is disgusting. Her body and her right? What's wrong with that. She is biased? A women gets absued in front of millions and you think that person rasing voice against them is biased! What is the in first paragraph or the entire article for that matter that is biased. If your loved one get abused like that would you say the same to somone showing support. That's shows the pathetic state of soceity's mind set
Recommend (0)
NS Mar 04, 2020 09:55pm
This KRQ is displaying and promoting socio-pathic behaviour and those who promote him and his work are also doing the same. I’m shocked that Pakistani media and society promotes such hate and violence towards women. This is not Islam, it is the opposite
Recommend (0)
Cookie Mar 04, 2020 09:59pm
Pakistani tv has yet to develop maturity, most tv channels behave like katcha adolescents
Recommend (0)
Syed A. Mateen Mar 04, 2020 10:04pm
"Mera jism, meri marzi" (my body, my choice) is an open and shameful slogan raised by any women in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. For last couple of years the slogan was first displayed on a pla card during an Aurat March rally. When women are fighting for empowerment they must understand that "Mera jism, meri marzi" (my body, my choice) will not be acceptable by any honourable husband, nor by his females family members as no honourable man or woman would like to hear or speak such words which directly relates and understood from the perspective of nudity. Women using words "Mera jism, meri marzi" (my body, my choice) should first go to family courts in the country and find out ratio of divorces taking place nowadays mostly between the newly married couples. Had Marvi Simed not started conversation with such shameful slogan, I am sure that Khalil-Ur-Rehman Qamar would not have gone upto that extent. Whatever has happened in the TV programme is very shameful for all of us.
Recommend (0)
A Ahmed Mar 04, 2020 10:09pm
This man should not be given that much attention, obviously talk shows strive for ratings which erroneously come from numbers not moral high grounds. Having a yelling match of abusers, provide numbers. People either in shock or in appreciation watch it. Question remained does this kind of recorded program, broadcast as is, would discredit the offender or it enforce the offensive attitude in the society at large ? Place of a woman is inside the four walls is not a new slogan it is psychologically internalized concept of our previous generation of both sexes. The Pakistani youth is where modesty takes ethical, pragmatic and gender equal footing. So broadcasting such a contemptuous behavior will discredit him or glorify him depends on a recipients' education level and personal attitude, however, by interrupting him Marvi lost it by not having him express his views. To discredit such offenders one need to be firm without loosing cool. Debate is not a contest of words its also of demeanor.
Recommend (0)
stevenson Mar 04, 2020 10:14pm
@RIZWAN AHMED Even if she interrupted her, does that justify that illiterate man using profanity on public television ? So if you interrupt me, do I have the right to use the most profane language on you ?
Recommend (0)
IDK Mar 04, 2020 10:29pm
@RIZWAN AHMED yes she did interrupt but there is a good manner to respond to interruptions. Screaming abuse like that is probably not it.
Recommend (0)
Khurram Mar 04, 2020 10:36pm
@Khaled the absence of traffic on the road when KRQ dramas are aired.
Recommend (0)
Khurram Mar 04, 2020 10:39pm
@Khaled by the way I never said he is the best writer.. what I said he is one of the best..
Recommend (0)
ZULFIQAR ALI Mar 04, 2020 10:39pm
I was big fan of KRQ but not anymore.."JO ORAT KO GALIYAN DAITA HAY WOH MARD NAHEE HOTA"
Recommend (0)
Junaid Mar 04, 2020 10:46pm
@RIZWAN AHMED All Marvi Sarmid said rightfully was “my body, my right” three times, that doesnt give him right to abuse her with derogatory words, abuse and mock her body/looks/gender, character assassinate her or say one wouldnt even spit on her. What she said was right, what he said wasnt. So your comparison is baseless.
Recommend (0)
Awaz.... Mar 04, 2020 10:54pm
That clearly shows respect for women....Wow.... By the way, where is Tamgha e Imtiaz Mehwish Hayat? Why she is quite now? Speak up!!!
Recommend (0)
Nauman Mar 04, 2020 10:56pm
Let’s be fair over here, Marvi provoked him and he reacted in kind.
Recommend (0)
Paklink Blog Mar 04, 2020 11:03pm
Irrespective of views and language between Khalil ur Rehman Qamar and Marvi Sarmed. It is doubtless to say that what so ever was displayed on posters in last year's march was not a good idea. It looked like that was a crowd of illiterate people. Rather than well-educated women. Being a follower of Islam, respect towards each other is part of both, women and men. If someone did not pay respect to the rights of each other. Then, the responsibility lies in that particular person. It should not be like marching on the roads by chanting sexist and abusive slogans. Men's and Women, both need to follow the true meanings of Islam, rather than marching on the roads and abusing or condemning each other on Social Media and other platforms. They simply need to follow the rule of "Do respect and have respect." We need to change our mindset towards our society. As the base of our society lies in the principles of Islam. So, why we are rebellion against our society? be courteous and be patient.
Recommend (0)
Awaz.... Mar 04, 2020 11:05pm
Khalil-Ur-Rehman Qamar represents the mind set of Pakistani men. Where are the Pakistani Islamic scholars, Ulammas, Khateebs, Muftis, Politicians, leaders, News Pandits like Hassan Nisar, Muqbool Jan Orya and Najam Sethi?.... Speak up in favor of Marvi Sirmed. Shame on you!!! Hats off to Dawn News for fair & balance coverage....We Salute you Dawn News. You are the best.
Recommend (0)
THE MORNING STAR Mar 04, 2020 11:06pm
Both men and women have rights and obligations. Managers are not owners!
Recommend (0)
Farooq Ahmad Mar 04, 2020 11:08pm
Where is PEMRA? The host, program and this person must be banned for lifetime.
Recommend (0)
Aban Usmani Mar 04, 2020 11:17pm
A very valid question is " Why is a man like Khalil Ur Rehman Qamar invited to speak on a talk show" Answer : Only to improve the channel rating Khalil Ur Rehman Qamar a writer and a poet but unfortunately has no sense of how to behave publicly. Why are men invited to programs on Aurat March to begin with
Recommend (0)
dilawar Mar 04, 2020 11:23pm
While everyone should condemn KUR for his foul language, Marvi wasn't a saint either. She was equally annoying. She was the one to start this stupid argument in the first place.
Recommend (0)
Awaz.... Mar 04, 2020 11:28pm
Pakistan TV channels must boycott Khalil-Ur-Rehman Qamar and never invite him as a guest. This man is a bad name to Pakistan and Islam.
Recommend (0)
Kumar(Varanasi) Mar 04, 2020 11:32pm
What a jerk!
Recommend (0)
Kumar(Varanasi) Mar 04, 2020 11:35pm
He got loads of free publicity otherwise till now who knew him outside drama writing circle?
Recommend (0)
Pak Jobs Mar 04, 2020 11:36pm
It takes two to tango. Both lost cool at the same time. Just focusing one person would not be a fair call. One should see the whole program and then decide. Knowingly KRQ is harsh with words and not easy to understand so easily, then why is he given air time like that ? when our society has no tolerance at all. By just showing Khalil ur Rehmans (KRQ) part again and again , seems biased. Marvi is not the right person to even become representative of Woman's right. Her language was similar to him. In other words ' mard aur aurat aik level par ah gaye'. The essence of Adab is fading away at all ends. The talk show is the mirror reflection of our society. If you want to criticize anyone , start criticizing your self 1st as a person. We as nation , only like to see things at one extreme end. The problem is still there , which is not being discussed or even given any thought. "Hum apni galteeiyo keh behtareen wakeel aur dusaroh keh ghaltiyo keh behtareen judge hain"
Recommend (0)
Pak Jobs Mar 04, 2020 11:38pm
My respect for KRQ as a great writer. Let him be what he is doing. Don't drag him on media spotlight for ratings and high Youtube hits. Yes, he is harsh with words. but he speaks that way. It takes time and maturity to understand his narrative. You may agree or disagree with my viewpoint. Its totally your concern , but i should never judge you. Promote peace and tolerance. Not hate and war of words. mic drop
Recommend (0)
Kumar(Varanasi) Mar 04, 2020 11:39pm
@RIZWAN AHMED you are wrong . A sane person would have responded differently to interruptions. Just listen to his obnoxious tone.
Recommend (0)
Awaz.... Mar 04, 2020 11:40pm
Men like Khalil-Ur-Rehman Qamar is the reason for Aurat March.
Recommend (0)
Asad Mar 04, 2020 11:44pm
Khalil’s misogyny must be condemned at every level. He certainly does not represent me or the millions of other men in Pakistan who support women’s causes. I must say that the female anchor failed to rebuke Khalil and to protect Marvi. It was a sad day!
Recommend (0)
Awaz.... Mar 05, 2020 12:27am
The reason Mehwish Hayat is quite because she is playing a leading role in his film "London Nahi Joan ga"
Recommend (0)
Zulfiqar Mar 05, 2020 12:58am
This guy needs anger management. Maybe it’s time to face the demons within.
Recommend (0)
Tzaman Mar 05, 2020 01:13am
It's time sensible people of this country boycott this bigot totally from media, and social conversation.
Recommend (0)
Umar Mar 05, 2020 01:15am
Khalil Ur Rehman Qamar has no right to abuse the vulnerable of our society. Who is he to pass such vulgar remarks and so-called MUSLIM. Khalil Ur Rehman Qamar did not drop from the sky. Maybe this is the way, he speaks with his own mother, sister or wife. In my opinion, he must be punished for his actions. Bottom line, he is humiliating himself by disrespecting women.
Recommend (0)
Syed Saeed Mar 05, 2020 01:26am
why don't people just ignore him and media rejects his work, more discussion will make him popular and known
Recommend (0)
Abbas Khan Mar 05, 2020 02:02am
What the heck!. This is how you talk to women? This is how you've been brought up? How can you be a writer and director?You should be put in jail for this behavior of yours on live tv.
Recommend (0)
Indo-Arya Mar 05, 2020 02:05am
Shame on the female host Ayesha Ehtesham - please just quit.
Recommend (0)
Singh- Mar 05, 2020 02:26am
In ‘ Sadqay Tumhare’ his biography he eloped with shano.. he pretty much fought for his love in all ways possible. His father committed adultery. His mother was betrayed and he rightly points out how he was disgusted by that .... and now he is defending the likes of his father... and he says it would be bad for society... Khalil ji you Are just confused . In your debate you are not sticking for coherent viewpoints... get a life before you come and represent us men on these shows
Recommend (0)
Omer Malik Mar 05, 2020 02:36am
This is exactly what the PTI has empowered over the country, these are exactly their tactics and they seem to be working for them so i suppose Khalil thought i would give it a try too.
Recommend (0)
Ghani K Mar 05, 2020 03:27am
When you have dime a dozen talk shows , to get good rating anchor helplessly sometimes intentionally watches then, situation gets out of control. Joins in social media more sparks start flying. Along the way common decency falls aside
Recommend (0)
Ahmad Mar 05, 2020 03:40am
Guys c’mon, why everyone Is getting upset on small things. Everyone should have rights to Express their feelings or concerns. Just listen to each other’s with respect that’s all.
Recommend (0)
Adil Jadoon Mar 05, 2020 04:23am
@RIZWAN AHMED Can’t behave like this if the other person does not want to listen....it is their choice. He is there to express his views and not to convince her of them! His action reflect poorly on his upbringing and family values.
Recommend (0)
L.Ahmad Mar 05, 2020 04:27am
Not an educated and decent person.
Recommend (0)
Shairu Mar 05, 2020 04:46am
When people don’t see respect of their mother and sisters at home they treat other women with disrespect, very shameful comments . At the same time the March organizer should use the slogans very carefully and avoid slogans that may have implied meanings, in general we are becoming a sick society.
Recommend (0)
Awaz.... Mar 05, 2020 04:58am
Why Pakistani men are supporting this bush head Khalil-Ur-Rehman Qamar? Because majority of them are in the same mindset. The oppression of women stems largely from men’s desire for power and control. The same need which, throughout history, has driven men to try to conquer and subjugate other groups or nations, and to oppress other classes or groups in their own society, drives them to dominate and oppress women. Since men feel the need to gain as much power and control as they can, they steal away power and control from women. They deny women the right to make decisions so that they can make them for them, leave women unable to direct their own lives so that they can direct their lives for them. Ultimately, they’re trying to increase their sense of significance and status, in an effort to offset the discontent and sense of lack created by humania.
Recommend (0)
faisal Mar 05, 2020 05:12am
He must be punished
Recommend (0)
Taj Mar 05, 2020 06:04am
Useless intellectuals
Recommend (0)
Shayaan Mar 05, 2020 06:55am
I agree with everything in this article, and it's sad indicment of the patriarchal nature of our society where men like Khalil can come on national television and spew slurs with such impunity. It doesn't matter what the provocation, you just don't use language like that. I just wanted to point a small factual error. When you said "Need I also remind you, that the subject of this violence, are women and women alone.", that's not strictly true, as Wikipedia says the ratio is about 2:1 for women, which is still horrific, but not 100%. Men are also victims in this crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour_killing_in_Pakistan#Prevalence
Recommend (0)
Ayman Mar 05, 2020 07:03am
Signs of a sick and perverted society
Recommend (0)
zain Mar 05, 2020 07:14am
This guy is real toxic to the Pakistani society, if he is not stopped and controlled he will bring as many people near to his toxic nature. No one has got any right to call a women dirty , media please stop promoting this person .
Recommend (0)
Abbas Mar 05, 2020 07:15am
@RIZWAN AHMED response for being interrupted is to swear and smear another persons character???? I am wondering about the morals you have been taught. No wonder ppl like Mr Qamar are not just accepted but defended and celebrated.
Recommend (0)
Laila Mar 05, 2020 07:17am
His dramas are laced with subtle but very effective misogyny. He is misogyny personified. He needs to be boycotted and held accountable for his vitriol and abuse. What is happening to this country? Public figures even politicians are abusing other people or worse slapping them? In public! Yes it is annoying being interrupted but come on, his reaction is out of line, disproportionate and terrifying. The incompetent anchor also needs to be fired. Clearly she is just not fit this job. The fact that so many men and women are supporting him shows this country has issues with deeprooted institutionalized misogyny.
Recommend (0)
Manzoor Mar 05, 2020 07:33am
Dear commentators, it is just of ill selection of topic by an immature host . The panel selection was also very tricky and preplanned to humiliate the 53% population. The norms of our culture has been burried by such immature hosts just for their pond of flash . It is PERMRA, who must be set responsible for allowing such talk shows. Court must took somoto.
Recommend (0)
Azhar awan Mar 05, 2020 07:41am
This bully must be delt with stern hands
Recommend (0)
Azhar awan Mar 05, 2020 07:43am
@Shabi is he truly a writer. He is morally blind man.
Recommend (0)
Ch. K. A. Nye Mar 05, 2020 08:09am
@Khurram.. And that makes it OK for him to denigrate women?
Recommend (0)
M. Anwar Mar 05, 2020 08:42am
After reading this article, I went to Youtube and listened to the whole clip. Marvi Sirmed presented her point of view and repeated the tagline 'mera jism meri marzi.' Next up was the JUI-F religious scholar and she constantly interrupted him and didn't allow him to speak. When it came to Khalil ur Rehman Qamar, he started softly and stated that 3 educated people should have a civilized discussion and not interrupt each other. He had completed almost 3 sentences when Marvi started repeating the mentioned phrase again and again. She didn't stop despite the anchor and Khalil's requests and from then onwards the situation completely collapsed. In no way do I support Khalil's language but at the same time I would ask why Marvi is playing the victim card? She intentionally antagonized her panel member and didn't allow others to speak. She has deployed the same tactic in numerous other programs and received similar treatment. Feminists need an alternative wise champion.
Recommend (0)
Sarshar Mar 05, 2020 08:57am
It was quite disturbing to watch the video. Mr.Rehman crossed the line. He has a right to disagree but that’s about it. Using abusive language to express his feelings is beyond comprehension. Women in our society are abused and rather than to correct it, we as men in Pakistani society feel proud of it.
Recommend (0)
Rabia Mar 05, 2020 10:50am
please get out would be more appropriate
Recommend (0)
Ali Mar 05, 2020 11:01am
@Awamun Naas Ki Adalat comon, just don't jump the bandwagon and have your own honest opinion.
Recommend (0)
Shahid Mar 05, 2020 11:19am
What is new here? Has it not happened in Parliament many times before? Discussion forums? TV channels? Attention grabbing slogan may grab attention, but both words and message of slogan must be civil, mature and graceful, And so are the arts of debate and discussion. Clearly we have yet to learn all those skills including the virtuous patience. Literal, verbal or any other form of 'arrogance' has never promoted harmony and never it will. All three participants, including the host-cum-moderator, miserably failed in this tragic episode. What a shame.
Recommend (0)
Ibrahim Mar 05, 2020 11:25am
Khalil is 100% right
Recommend (0)
Vicky Mar 05, 2020 11:52am
Very sorry to see articles like this. !! Which kind of empowerment and enlightenment the slogan MERA JISM MERI MARZI is giving to our women? Are we ready to descend our respected,beloved women to the position which is being enjoyed by women in the West? how miserable is their life in the West any body sitting in Pakistan can never even imagine. Please dont make our women a show-piece and open to public bully. We highly endorse the view point of Khalil saab except the part of abuses. Abuse is not acceptable at any cost.
Recommend (0)
Truth Exposed Mar 05, 2020 11:54am
Marvi provoked him. He was very respectful to start with and was speaking on his turn. There was no need for Marvi to do what she did. Yes, we all love our women but they also have to behave.
Recommend (0)
Vazeem Abbas Mar 05, 2020 12:05pm
(1/2) I am not sure where to start but one thing is for sure, we have not identified the real problem as yet. The real problem is not what Khalil said but the real problem is the mindset of million of men towards women. I still see a huge number of men supporting Khalil. Where are we heading. I am a man and find it disturbing how intolerant have we grown towards are female counterparts who give us life and love in form of a mother, who give us everything and anything in form of a wife (her youth, her body, her dreams, her beauty, her love and above all her ego), who gives us a sense of protection and appreciation in form of a sister, and gives us care and enormous pride in form of a daughter. She even leaves her parents and siblings home to make our homes a paradise and what are we giving her in return. Nothing. Not even a chance to do what she wants in her life and not even a chance to dream or pursue their dreams.
Recommend (0)
Vazeem Abbas Mar 05, 2020 12:05pm
(2/2) Believe me All women should have the right to live their lives the way they want it and they should not need any permission from anyone to do that. Plus its a pity that they need an Aurat March for something they deserve. Its a pity. They deserve to have full authority on their lives and should not be treated like slaves. No one and I say no one (even husbands) should dictate their life. They can be given advice and/or counselling but not ordered or dictated to live a life,
Recommend (0)
Abbasi Mar 05, 2020 12:06pm
With few words that he made on the TV show, other than that his principle stance that he deserved to be listened patiently. He started by saying that when honorable court has ruled that when certain words cannot be used in association of the aurat march, we shouldn't do so. If anybody wants to use the words prohibited by the court get clearance from court and not shout on the men. I will not support certain language that was used against women, but i cannot ignore the role of the other party in provoking such language. Our society needs to learn to be of different views and hold conversation logically. We can always innovate and i think had the slogan been #Meri zindagi meri Marzi; that would have been much better and fitting the overall purpose / spirit.
Recommend (0)
Shahid khawaja Mar 05, 2020 12:28pm
Extremes shocked on Khalil s remarks. Both have damaged the cause of womens rights in our society. The entire male society is with the female rights but the Aurat foundation should come up with decent placards remaining within our moral values.. I humbly request them to stage a rally demanding security , full rights as per Islam and respect . But please do not copy the west and degrade the womenfolk . There are respectful ways to fight for women rights and the entire nation is with you.
Recommend (0)
Zahid Mar 05, 2020 01:07pm
This is not just who is right or wrong. This is about approach how women's to be treated in the society. I think government should step-in in this situation and draw the framework in accordance to Islam and social culture to outline the limits of each gender. Everyone is respectable in the society, and to maintain the balance and happiness within the society everybody should follow the basic principles of life as guided by the Government in accordance to Islam and social culture.
Recommend (0)
Sajjad Mar 05, 2020 01:18pm
Not sure why are we even discussing this. The women who want to do the "Aurat March" are perfectly entitled to the march as well as the slogans they believe in. Everyone has the right to believe in whatever they believe. Not sure when would we stop forcing our narratives on other. Move on. There are bigger issues than some women expressing and sticking to their views. If all Pakistani women want to join the march it has to be their choice.
Recommend (0)
Abi Mar 05, 2020 02:00pm
Hi everyone I think no one has a right to insult someone based on one’s personal views. Secondly,I will address my fellow Pakistani women, please try to Live according to the teaching of The Islam. On the name of freedom, West destroyed the women and now women is a like a product. Islam made us precious, please feel precious, be precious and stay precious.
Recommend (0)
Rana Mar 05, 2020 02:02pm
There isn't any justification for using abusive language, but Mera Jism Meri Marzi isn't permissible even for men in any religion!
Recommend (0)
Ahmad Mar 05, 2020 02:11pm
Unfortunately a lot of Pakistani men will support this guy...and they have one thing in common. All their information about Aurat march is from social media posts and they are too lazy and selfish to actually look into what issues are being raised. All they want to do is ogle at pictures of the march and make their own interpretations of slogans.
Recommend (0)
Tahir Khan Mar 05, 2020 03:18pm
Pls change the picture of Khalil with good one
Recommend (0)
Rabia Mar 05, 2020 03:24pm
@Vicky I am not sure if you are a man or a woman. But if you are a man you cannot have experienced the persecution women go through in Pakistan on a daily basis. Every time they go on the street. Every time they visit a government office. At work. Everywhere. The West is better than this. Perhaps it was not once upon a time. The sort of language used by Khalil and the way he spoke to a woman is not acceptable according to any norm. Yes a woman's body is her own right as is a man's. What is wrong with that? When a man's body is abused it is known as abuse. When a woman's body is abused it is accepted. Can you accept that?
Recommend (0)
Ashok Kumar Mar 05, 2020 03:34pm
The man was so abusive, but he is being supported by many on twitter. That shows that the people are on both sides. That is not good. Even if the woman was wrong abusing like that speaks volumes about the upbringing of the man.
Recommend (0)
Alih Mar 05, 2020 03:35pm
Why is this guy on every thing now a days? Why we create monsters from no where?
Recommend (0)
kamran Mar 05, 2020 03:45pm
I condemn behaviour of both participants. Since, author has questioned participation of the gentleman i want to ask Can you (author) please justify participation of Marvi Sarmad in talk show (aurat march) ? Why is a women like Marvi Sarmad invited to speak on a talk show regarding women or Aurat March? Has she contributed anything to their struggles? Has she been an ally to their problems? Has she provided them with anything-except point scoring?
Recommend (0)
Khalid Mar 05, 2020 03:56pm
All men afraid of Aurat March and equality are the ones who are unable to fulfil their manly duties. All cases where women are abused show that the man was incapable to perform and this was the only way to prove manliness Women watch out for such so called men.
Recommend (0)
M.Mudassir Siddiqui Mar 05, 2020 03:57pm
What was wrong with his point of View?
Recommend (0)
Tariq awan Mar 05, 2020 04:30pm
It was really shameful to see a man fighting with woman and more shameful for the TV channel who broadcast such non-sense talk show. Looks there is no govt in Pakistan to control such stupidity and all is left to TV channels whatever they show have their freedom.
Recommend (0)
Feroze Shah Mar 05, 2020 04:43pm
Meri marza mera jism is a passing fad will never be implemented in our society, as we have certain norms principles and cultural values Mr. Khalil should have had a civilized debate as the Stone Age cudgeling technique he used was not conclusive to passing his point of view he should have listened to her point of view and offered counter arguments with his chauvinist attitude he only weakened his position and strengthen hers.
Recommend (0)
disgusted Mar 05, 2020 05:15pm
This fellow is a despicable character as displayed by his lack etiquette on the TV show. I don't even want to take his name. He should be banned from all TV talk shows. But knowing the electronic media they will milk this for revenue, forget etiquette or other manners. Don't know what this fellow thinks of himself, like he is some authority on women's affairs and when he barks every should listen. He could have simply asked the host to control the other panelist by requesting her or forcing her to respect the time for the other to speak, He however had no right to talk in the manner he did. No excuses, he should be banned. needs a lot of schooling.
Recommend (0)
Riaz Khan Mar 05, 2020 05:19pm
I didn't see the show, however the above article is also one sided. Before schooling others, one need to raise above the personal bias. Can you raise above that?
Recommend (0)
Yousuf Mar 05, 2020 05:24pm
Shame on Neo for inviting him in the first place. They knew it was going to get edgy and they did it deliberately for the ratings.
Recommend (0)
Shoaib Gill Mar 05, 2020 05:39pm
KRQ is quite right
Recommend (0)
BAXAR Mar 05, 2020 05:46pm
@Laila "His dramas are laced with subtle but very effective misogyny." Why are they mostly watched by women. I never heard any comment from men about his drama, only from women, and never about the writer's point of view. Maybe you think women don't get his point and men are not interested in low quality dramas. In a way, you are implying that men are more intelligent than women. PS. I don't know the guy never watched his dramas, I am here only because of controversies about misogyny which seems absurd about a guy who is mostly (almost only) popular in female audience.
Recommend (0)
M. Bilal Anjum Mar 05, 2020 06:18pm
Khalil Ur Rehman is absolutely right!
Recommend (0)
Beena Mar 05, 2020 06:38pm
I tried to watch a 2 minutes video clip on YouTube of his latest drama, I couldn't even tolerate that for 2 minutes. Third class dialogues, classless picturization of the scene between humayoun saeed and ayza khan. Anyway put that aside. I want to comment about this thing here. It reflects the mindset of the majority of our people. Illiterate, ignorant, unintelligent, completely intolerant about the other person's point of view, disrespectful arrogance of the highest level. You will see that on all tv talk shows and in your real life people around you. Honestly it is so difficult to be with these people. So difficult...
Recommend (0)
Mirza Mar 05, 2020 06:40pm
It is not just Mr. Qamar but anyone coming to media should be mindful of the audience, where is the respect, dignity and honor. If you dont respect yourself, nobody will respect you. Words to be choose carefully. Unfortunately, there is no policy of banning as this is not the first time this type of incident happened, politicians were acted previously in the same manner but nothing happened. He should sorry to the nation for using the abusive language
Recommend (0)
Mirza Mar 05, 2020 06:42pm
@M.Mudassir Siddiqui There is nothing wrong with his point of view. This is about how he conveyed his message on the media with abusive language.
Recommend (0)
Farooq Mar 05, 2020 06:46pm
KRQ Keep it up !
Recommend (0)
Iftikhar Khan Mar 05, 2020 07:08pm
Why are we giving so much importance to this 'too full of himself' writer by keep discussing, following and talking about him? Myself included as I clicked on this blog and even leaving a comment!
Recommend (0)
Tipoo Mar 05, 2020 07:38pm
Good job Khalil ur Rehman
Recommend (0)
Arshad Mahmood Mar 05, 2020 07:48pm
@RIZWAN AHMED article is very accurate reflection of what I saw. People do get interrupted in debates but adults with common sense do not resort to abuse. It is for the presenter to stop other participant from interrupting.
Recommend (0)
M ashfaq Mar 05, 2020 07:58pm
Khalil ur rehman u great
Recommend (0)
Faiza Irfan Mar 05, 2020 08:08pm
He must be banned on TV shows - I am angrier on the host and the show producers who didn’t do anything none whatsoever so stop such an open verbal abuse towards a woman - very shameful very disgraceful!!
Recommend (0)
Imran Mar 05, 2020 08:18pm
This is a biased post. You are misleading people by giving false information. It is infact marvi sarmad who started raising slogans and instigated khaleel sb. I am with khaleel ur Rehman Qamar sb on this issue.
Recommend (0)
Shahid Mar 05, 2020 08:20pm
The blame goes squarely on program anchor producer and who ever choose the guest list. They choose controversial figures on purpose to promote their show ranking thus becoming equal partner in the crime. They should be considered helper and abettor in crime and should be held equally responsible
Recommend (0)
Shahid Mar 05, 2020 08:29pm
totally unacceptable utterance by this guy. If the government does not register a FIR against him court should take sumo notice and make an example of him so people know that even crimes committed on live TV falls under court jurisdiction
Recommend (0)
thinking Mar 05, 2020 08:33pm
I am surprised that people are supporting this guy, saying he was interrupted by Ms.Marvi. Is there no dignity at all, that some one raise their voice, even if its an argument, and he gets influenced into use all those cuss words. Of all, he used such shameful words, which cannot be printed. Very well knowing that men like him wont get punished. Reading the dawn comments, with so many of khalis supporters, I understand why its a big deal for aurat march to be successful. yuck
Recommend (0)
Ijaz Mar 05, 2020 09:07pm
Well Khalil it Rehman Qamar has done everyone one big favour. He has beautifully demonstrated why the Aurat March is a need of our times!
Recommend (0)
merewether Mar 05, 2020 09:46pm
Not only should this man be banned from the media for life, action should also be taken against the anchor, the program producer and the channel. I understand this was a prerecorded program so either it should have been stopped immediately the ruckus started or it should not have been aired. I imagine it was done for the ratings and the social media earning.
Recommend (0)
Neo Mar 05, 2020 10:01pm
KhaliliurRehman Qamar's behaviour was unacceptable. However, this slogan if applied to men would also be equally inappropriate. However, I am all for womens rights and such marches will make politicians realise the importance of dealing with problems womens face in our society. Especially, there should be more protection for women at the workplace under legislation.
Recommend (0)
Masood Haider Mar 05, 2020 10:14pm
It is utterly shameful how this thoroughly despicable human being is sought by TV producers to write scripts for cringe worthy misogynistic and class shaming plays.
Recommend (0)
outerwings Mar 05, 2020 11:04pm
No..no and NO! This is just ONE point of view. I've spent too much time in the West to know where this all ends no matter how innocently it starts. Feminism is nothing more than a 'female supremacy' movement disguised as one of humanitarian egalitarianism. It is about power and yes that power comes at the cost of taking it away from men. Any man who supports it is obviously not a very wise man. If we as an Islamic society allow this today, then tomorrow the same women will be asking for gay rights, then after that falsely accusing a man and demanding he be destroyed. This is about power. Don't be naive enough to believe the innocent version this author has portrayed.
Recommend (0)
Ehteshamul Haque Mar 05, 2020 11:57pm
@Kashif Siddiqui AGREE
Recommend (0)
Ehteshamul Haque Mar 05, 2020 11:58pm
@MK In this case, what he said is outrageous and should not be accepted at ANY Cost.
Recommend (0)
Samanvita Mar 06, 2020 12:17am
He is hilarious! But I do agree the slogan meri jism .. needs to be refined. What does it even mean? It can be misleading and unnecessarily confusing. I am sure it is not about euthanasia but it could mean too many things and unnecessarily invokes worst insecurities in men rather than inspire rethinking of gender roles and rights.
Recommend (0)
Rkh Mar 06, 2020 12:23am
KRQ is not only a good writer, actor but screenplay writer as well believe has again penned an interesting and controversed script for the talk show just for TRP. Not a big deal....!!!
Recommend (0)
Abdul Ghauri Mar 06, 2020 01:41am
Every reasonable & decent person should condemn and ashamed of this vulgar and inappropriate incident on National TV While whole world specially your neighbor who already have nothing good to say about us. lets admit we can not have decently conversation, period.
Recommend (0)
Theepa Mar 06, 2020 02:12am
@saad .... Sooo sad
Recommend (0)
Syed Mar 06, 2020 03:12am
All these morning shows presented by NGO's aunties on tv channels need to be strictly monitored and censored. They have hidden agenda of slow poisoning the young generation.
Recommend (0)
Faraz Mar 06, 2020 05:09am
I consistently see that dawn only promotes one narrative on this issue with these sort of publications. Where are your neutral reporting claims now?
Recommend (0)
Saeed Mar 06, 2020 05:22am
There are two sides of this post. We are always following West for everything we do because West is leading the world. We try to be like them we eat like them we walk like them we talk like them but the important thing that we are forgetting is the society difference. The are brought up in an open society where a girl has a choice to find a man for her to live with as a partner (not husband) whereas our society don't accept such actions. Every second sentence from our mouth is about Islam so we really follow it?? I have heard some here in West that religions are fairy tails. Will these ladies be able to say that about Islam ??? Yes women march is acceptable but the slogan mera jism meri marzi has a lot of other implications that we need to look into. Despite my disagreement with the slogan I still do not agree with Khalil Ur Rehman Qamar's behaviour and should have left the show if he was interrupted. This would have kept him on the stronger side.
Recommend (0)
Amin Mar 06, 2020 06:22am
Khalil ur Rahman Qamar, please stand up to a standing ovation, you deserve it. We are with you all the way.
Recommend (0)
IFTIKHAR Mar 06, 2020 09:46am
It was the Host who let the Dog Fight continue. If she simply Switch OFF the others except the one who was given chance to speak. No body is defending Qamar. It was shamefull talk by an educated and known writer, but at the same time Jahalat was also shown by Marvi by sining bande Mataram
Recommend (0)
Nargis Mar 06, 2020 09:58am
@Ehtisham teaching our girls that it's not okay for any one to touch your body without your consent isn't okay with you? That their body isn't their own? Forget that this is even about women... what about little boys? Is their body not their own? Or there to be touched and fondled against their will? Please open your eyes as this is more than what women / men should and shouldn't be allowed to wear. It talks about sexual abuse and violence. About female genital mutilation. About underage marriage. About the right of one human being over their own body.
Recommend (0)
Nargis Mar 06, 2020 10:03am
@Vicky women in the west have rights. They know they have the ability and support to walk away from any form of abuse. They have the right to make their own decisions. Quite frankly, it's not a bad life knowing that your life is your own. Please don't assume women in the west are miserable because they are not. No one feels miserable if they are treated like a human being first.
Recommend (0)
manzoor H Jaffery Mar 06, 2020 10:22am
I am with Khalil ur Rehman Qamar on this issue
Recommend (0)
Shahab Mar 06, 2020 10:58am
If this whole drama is because of one darn slogan why not change it to something a little less vague? Do you really want to translate the slogans word by word from western feminist protests and try to fit in a society with different standards? Goodluck doing that. I'm waiting for free the nipple in Pakistan(sarcasm). One should realize that societies like that of Americas have become dysfunctional because of their failure to draw a line. Some boundaries need to be set, or life becomes too chaotic. I'm a religiously agnostic man sensible enough to realize the importance of religion(even with its dogmatic nature) in a functional human society. You 'HAVE' to draw the line somewhere, and i think we have bigger issues at hand for now. A feminist movement against acid attacks and honor killing? Well, yes, I'm in. But not one with such a vague chant and slogans. These are the same people that don't have their own house in order going out to fix the world in order, laughable.!!
Recommend (0)
Hassan Mar 06, 2020 11:03am
The devil here is NEO News. It should be penalized first.
Recommend (0)
immi Mar 06, 2020 11:05am
Freedom of speech is granted to both genders. We stand with Mr. Khalil.
Recommend (0)
Yawar Mar 06, 2020 12:43pm
Khalil Ur Rehman Qamar is clearly an emotionally charged person and has an issue with controlling his anger. He tends to lose it quite easily. So this was not surprising. But both Marvi Sarmad and the maulana saab did not behave very well either. For example when Qamar saab lost it, Maulana saab should have tried to restrain him. But he did not and kept quiet. He allowed an aggressive man to abuse and yell at a physically weaker woman. How pathetic. In my books in this talk show, Ms. Sarmad = failure, Maulana saab = bigger failure, Qamar saab = biggest failure. All three should be banned for life from appearing in talk shows.
Recommend (0)
Taj Mar 06, 2020 01:25pm
Where is Imran Khan?
Recommend (0)
Basharat Qadir Mar 06, 2020 02:43pm
Regrettably, the only words appropriate to describe Khalil-Ur-Rehman’s outburst and, probably even Khalil-Ur-Rehman himself, are words not fit to print. It is lamentable that such a one can be deemed a human being. آدمی کو بھی مُیسر نہیں انساں ہونا
Recommend (0)
Hassan Mar 06, 2020 04:07pm
I’m not going into the argument of who is right or who is wrong as we can clearly see mr Qamar is an uneducated uncultured oaf but with all the feminists in the media industry I’d like to see them take action and ostracize this man from the industry. If you can’t do that then don’t work with him in any capacity.
Recommend (0)
Aafand Mar 06, 2020 04:21pm
We are with Kalil ur Rehman in this matter. What he has done in live show was an unintentional because she interrupted him during the conversation that is against the ettiquites and morality.
Recommend (0)
Farrukh Arshad Mar 06, 2020 04:49pm
I think Khalil crossed all the lines and now its up to people to stop praising him irrespective of what he writes. There are two wrongs in his talk 1) How he is talking / behaving ? Abusive. 2) What he is talking (you can say its controversial and many people have already described what is wrong there). So leaving aside the controversial wrong, the abusive part has shown the lows of his personality. So how can you listen / see / watch to a person of such low character ?
Recommend (0)
Basharat Qadir Mar 06, 2020 06:09pm
Khalil-Ur-Rehman Qamar is uncouth, uncivilised, vulgar, and not fit to occupy the same space cyberspace as a woman. It would be perfectly understandable if he were to be disowned by the female members of his family — if he has any.
Recommend (0)
Nawaz Ahmed Mar 06, 2020 10:25pm
Next March Slogan "Mari Zaban Mari Marzi"
Recommend (0)
Beena Mar 07, 2020 12:31am
Just thinking, a 90 years old lady wouldn't want to be with you for sure, qamar. Yes, she has all her rights to do what she wants.
Recommend (0)
shahid Mar 07, 2020 07:17am
Well done, Khalil Ur Rahman. Zindabad.
Recommend (0)
Salma Mar 07, 2020 07:33pm
well said. the minds are dirty otherwise there is nothing uglier in this slogan. it is really terrifying to see the support of KRQ and I feel so insecure in this society where the Man have such mentality.
Recommend (0)
Muneeba Mar 07, 2020 10:03pm
Yes please move PEMRA on this that Khalil ur Rehman Qamar should be banned from part of the media industry.All his work should also be banned .
Recommend (0)
Tabassum Mar 08, 2020 01:52pm
All I can say is that as a male in this macho oriented society, I offer my deepest condolences to the women in Qamar's family and those of his supporters! Cannot imagine what life must be like for the women living with misogynistic, illiterates like this creepy man and his cronies.
Recommend (0)
Laila Mar 11, 2020 03:20pm
@Aafand who is 'We'? Surely you can only speak for yourself. Not the entire nation of 200 million.
Recommend (0)