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No justification for Minar-e-Pakistan assault, says Ali Gul Pir as he demands men call out harassers

No justification for Minar-e-Pakistan assault, says Ali Gul Pir as he demands men call out harassers

What those 400 men did was wrong and it was a crime, he said in a video on Instagram. "This has been happening for a long time."
21 Aug, 2021

Days after news broke of a woman's assault at the Greater Iqbal Park in Lahore on Independence Day, many people have begun victim blaming and questioning why the woman was at a public park on Independence Day. Ali Gul Pir might be a comedian, but had a very serious response to these victim blamers.

"If we accept [your theory] that she went for a TikTok meeting, if we accept [your theory] that the guy with her was her boyfriend, and we accept that the next day she posted a picture in which she looked happy, even if we accept all that, all your theories, what those 400 men did was wrong, was a crime and was horrible," he said in a series of videos posted on his Instagram Story.

"That doesn't change. Whatever justifications you give, that she was dancing or whatever she was doing, what those people did was a crime, only a morally corrupt person could do this. Those people should be punished, there should be no ifs and buts."

He told people to stop justifying the woman's assault.

"'Why did she go there, Minar-e-Pakistan, a girl, shouldn't have gone there'. Is Minar-e-Pakistan your drawing room? It's a public place. For citizens. For Pakistanis. It's not just for criminals and boys. Minar-e-Pakistan isn't a den of prostitution right?" Gul Pir said. "'Don't go there'. Then where should they go? Don't go in public, don't go there, don't go here. Then where?" he asked, rightfully questioning the shrinking number of safe public spaces for women.

The comedian then narrated his own experiences at concerts in Pakistan in the 90s. When I was 13 or 14 years old I went to a lot of concerts, like those by Noori and Junoon, he said. "And I witnessed this myself. Fifty to 200 men used to attack couples. They would beat up the guy, tear off the girl's clothes, molest her and harass her. Then the police would come, beat them up and they ran," he said, adding that he had seen this four to five times at concerts.

"It was happening then. It's part of our society, this ting has been happening in our society for a long time. You've seen a video of it [the Minar-e-Pakistan assault] and now you're aware but this was happening even back then," he reminded his followers. "Let's correct it, no more justifications. If someone justifies this in front me, I don't want to talk to that guy. Ignorant people," he said.

"They take it as a hit to their ego. 'This talk that's going on, it's hit my ego, they're talking about men, so I should justify it'. Just shut up! Just stop! Let's kill the ego and rectify it."

He called on men to stop harassment wherever they see it. "When you hear jokes or comments being made about it, stop them. Tell them it's wrong," Gul Pir implored.

"Condemn those people, isolate those people, educate those people! Let's make it into a solution rather than an ego thing. 'I didn't do it bro, not all men', f*** that shit. Let's just fix it, let's make this society better. Simple."

Thousands of people have taken to social media to condemn the assault and several celebrities have also condemned it, calling it sexual terrorism. That there are people who are still blaming the victim is horrifying and we're glad public figures are speaking up about it. Like Ali Gul Pir said, there are no justifications for what happened.

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Sane Mind1st Aug 21, 2021 01:21pm
WOW, what a statement this guy made. Seems this was revelation by him. Up until now all were scratching their heads, looking for the reason. And this joker just revelaed the reason.
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M. Saeed Aug 21, 2021 01:36pm
Nobody actually counted them. Somebody estimated vaguely and 400 molesters become the talk of the nation.
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M. Saeed Aug 21, 2021 01:47pm
What the writer states means, any time such a situation is created, the outcome in our system would be the same. He quoted several of his similar observations in his youth. I tend to agree with him because, such incidences are always there when their is crowd mentality in operation. The most frequent occurrences are at the exit gates of cinema halls, cricket stadiums, crowded trains etc.
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Fastrack Aug 21, 2021 01:48pm
I must acknowledge that our media and social needs some restrictions. At least 10% of what India has.
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FAZ Aug 21, 2021 01:48pm
The seeds we sowed are bearing fruits. Since last 30 years our children and youth are being fed through cheap Bollywood, Lollywoods and stage dramas the fact that the girl walking on the street is "available". Larki maan jae gi mentality is so rampant in the society that no one knows what consent really is. What is the sanctity of relationship between a man and a women and how should it start in the first place. What is a decent proposal. We nurtured animals and not men!
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Dr Muzzammil Qureshi Aug 21, 2021 02:01pm
Equal right in USA even modern civilization. InDecent exposure not allowed. Showing body part male or female doing ruination punishable in USA , premiscus sexual activity not allowed in school or in front babies or families . She was involved with 3 friend flying kissing sexusl arusal action in front many families. So she involved indecent action with other. Must punishable this kind of activity also harassment punishable too. USA both crime treating equally . If she is guilty must punish her and vise versus.
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Ali Aug 21, 2021 02:21pm
Hang those rats till death and teach all just dogs lesson of their lives so they never dare touching any girl again
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Ali Aug 21, 2021 02:21pm
@Sane Mind1st lol
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Ramay Aug 21, 2021 02:56pm
Why not so many girls & ladies in that premises,on that day, were not assaulted,only this tiktok performer was disgusted?Because she performed unethical gestures to attract 4 men for her free concent of lust,accompanying her.Others were provoked as it was a public place,and the country has no pubs,discos, bar rooms & night clubs,to enjoy such feasts.Both are accused & should be punished & the guardians of the lady as well,due to lack of proper training of the girl.
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H.s shafi Aug 21, 2021 03:20pm
Yeah no justification for what happened,the assaulters should be punished, right, but if you are a Muslim, you must know that for a modest Muslim woman concerts and public places are not suitable for them to go and their husbands father or whoever is responsible for them can restrict them to do so . These are the boundaries and duties according to the teachings of Islam. You can not deny them or are you more sensible than our Creator.
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Seam Drexel Aug 21, 2021 03:28pm
@Dr Muzzammil Qureshi - No one rips your clothes off in public for flying kisses in USA. And police arrives within minutes of being called. Stop, just stop blaming the victim. Men in public places in Pakistan act like vultures who have evolved to tear flesh off living beings.
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Zahid Aug 21, 2021 03:50pm
Nothing will happen just the Sahiwal incident
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Rizwan Aug 21, 2021 04:41pm
Until Pakistan become "Riyast-e-Madina" girls should exercise common sense and shouldn't venture alone in a crowd of 400 men.
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Ibrahim S Aug 21, 2021 06:19pm
Muted response on this matter from PM IK is deafening . He lost all his marbles
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AbdulHaque Shaikh Aug 21, 2021 07:21pm
It is fair that when one incite a riot. Both the inciter and rioters should be held accountable. In this case both the inciter and rioters are known . Since there is no clear Pakistani law against making public nuisance and inciting a riot , most of people take page from "me too movement" with extreme case of inferiority complex and become goody goody too shoe.
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t bone steak Aug 21, 2021 07:27pm
It's so amazing so see that most men in the comments will defend the number of men and say it wasn't 400. And criticize Ali for what he said but not utter a single word from there mouth about how abhorrent the incident was. There is absolutely no empathy or shame or understanding in our culture about how harrasment can occur. Truly rotten
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t bone steak Aug 21, 2021 07:29pm
@FAZ sorry but this is the mentality of keeping women in their homes and saying they don't belong to the public space and if there's an unaccompanied woman outside, she must be bagherat and deserves to be harrased. The segregation makes things worse where men think women are some fantasy sex creatures. The third part is men knowing they will get away with it cause these incidents stun women and they know they'll be blamed instead of the harraser. kinda like you're doing
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t bone steak Aug 21, 2021 07:30pm
@FAZ we create these monsters.
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Ehsan Aug 21, 2021 08:06pm
@Dr Muzzammil Qureshi sorry sir, there is no comparison between west and Pakistan. I am not sure which US you are referring to, first of all such things are unheard of in US society and secondly laws acts swiftly here with severe punishment even if something happens.
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FAZ Aug 21, 2021 10:12pm
@t bone steak I think i said what you commented second. You read again i suppose what i said.
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Kaavan Aug 21, 2021 10:47pm
@M. Saeed That's the Pakistani way: Get a sniff of something (a POSSIBLE scandal) and run with it FASTER than lightning! and pronounce guilt and "EXEMPLARY punishment"!!!! The US Republicans do the same!
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Zeeshan Aug 21, 2021 10:47pm
The guys who did were perverts so find them and punish them as per laws. But don't stereotype all men for it, don't make it black and white that men are molesters and women are victims. No extrapolation from specific to general
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Kaavan Aug 21, 2021 10:50pm
@M. Saeed Mob mentality is DANGEROUS! But it takes only one individual to decide NOT to take part in the MOB and it may catch on a save LIVES!
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NY Aug 21, 2021 10:51pm
I don’t condone the incident whether it was one man or many. However, the media is inaccurately reporting the incident. How can 400 men molest a single woman. She was probably encircled by 10 men, more circles formed behind this one circle but they wouldn’t even have a hand reach to the victim or even see what was going on in the inner circle. I would argue that had the incident been in open view, lot of these men would have come forward to help the victim. While the attackers should be punished, to implicate 400 men would be unjust.
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Kaavan Aug 21, 2021 10:52pm
@Fastrack : What do you mean? People MUST not talk about things and others that do not concern them(selves)!!
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Kaavan Aug 21, 2021 10:59pm
@Dr Muzzammil Qureshi: Learn English Dr Qureshi!!!
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Kaavan Aug 21, 2021 11:12pm
@t bone steak The MOBS, you mean?
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Kaavan Aug 21, 2021 11:15pm
@Rizwan : **400 CRAZED men? These men were taught that they are masters of Pakistan! Their B/certificate is their law degree and the world is their court!
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Kaavan Aug 21, 2021 11:20pm
@t bone steak ; The men monsters? That woman is NOT a monster!! This is NOT the 7th century!
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Riaz Uddin Aug 21, 2021 11:49pm
This is very simple every cause has an effect, the cause was very apparent, she (the alleged victim ) invited adversity herself by appearing at a public place in an indecent way! Absolute freedom exits nowhere in the world! It has some limitations enforced and strictly observed even in those societies which claim to be free and democratic. The hue and cry over such unfortunate incident is waste of time and energy! Stop it!
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Ali da Malanga Aug 22, 2021 12:08am
I don't believe many men are justifying the assault on the girl. The majority of men have condemned it. The problem starts when people like Ali Gul start to form opinions without knowing complete facts. First, there is no evidence that 400 men had actually assaulted her. Then there are those so-called female celebrities who start to blame every man and hold them responsible for incidents like this. There is absolutely no justification for what happened to the girl. However, wait until the investigation into the incident completes and facts come out before issuing judgments.
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Syed Aug 22, 2021 02:00am
Who is he?
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nk Aug 22, 2021 03:32am
The original story how it all started is now out. I cannot defend men but at this point all fingers are being pointed towards the victim and her party of ten men.
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nk Aug 22, 2021 03:35am
@FAZ A 1000% correct. The mobile toy in the hands and pocket of everyone is filling the western agenda of destroying our culture and religion both.
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nk Aug 22, 2021 03:46am
@Seam Drexel Do not even dream for what you just said. 2015 to 2019 each year there were numerous reports of rape and molestation of women among people gathering at various concerts. From the most famous Coachella Valley music festival held every year in California 1 out of six women have reported sexual harassment.
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nk Aug 22, 2021 03:48am
@Ibrahim S No need for the PM to speak up on every matter.
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Ali Mehdi Aug 22, 2021 04:35am
With the type of hair this guy has he should be exceptionally careful whilst stepping out of his home or office. Better to be with a man all the time.
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ST Aug 22, 2021 08:21am
@ Ali Gul pir , what does it mean when you send flying kisses to the spectators.? All I can say is that she invited them for a free dinner.
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