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Aziz Ansari story sparks heated debate over #MeToo Movement

Aziz Ansari story sparks heated debate over #MeToo Movement

One psychiatrist says, “Too many women have joined #MeToo too quickly and unthinkingly.”
Updated 18 Jan, 2018

The #MeToo movement has been embraced by legions of women as a vital step toward countering widespread sexual abuse and misconduct.

This week, more so than at any point in the movement’s brief history, there’s visceral discussion about its potential for causing harm.

The catalyst was the publication by Babe.net of an account by a woman identified only as “Grace” detailing her 2017 encounter with comedian Aziz Ansari. The article intimated that Ansari deserved inclusion in the ranks of abusive perpetrators, yet many readers — women and men — concluded the encounter amounted to an all-too-common instance of bad sex during a date gone awry.

Ansari has said he apologised immediately after the woman told him about her discomfort during an encounter he believed to be consensual.

“Too many women have joined #MeToo too quickly and unthinkingly,” said Carole Lieberman, a Beverly Hills psychiatrist and author of the relationship books “Bad Boys” and “Bad Girls.”

“Though they may have wanted to be in solidarity with other women, the stories of dates gone wrong or women scorned have detracted from women who have been raped or seriously sexually assaulted,” she said.

A conservative analyst, Carrie Lukas of the Independent Women’s Forum, said Ansari “believed that everything that occurred with his accuser was consensual and welcomed.”

“His reputation is now in tatters,” Lukas wrote in an email. “Is that really fair?”

Online and in person, many women are talking about experiences comparable to Grace’s account — encounters with men who initially seemed wonderful, but turned pushy, if not criminally abusive, when things became sexual.

Sarah Hosseini, who writes about sex for Bustle, Romper, Scary Mommy and Ravishly, said the #MeToo movement might actually benefit from the Grace/Ansari controversy, and that the movement is big enough to encompass another layer in the discussion.

“There is some really murky and confusing sexual territory here that we haven’t really talked about yet collectively as a society,” she wrote, adding that the woman’s account in Babe was “disgusting and cringe-worthy.”

“What she experienced with Ansari is not OK. But do we have language yet for intimate encounters that teeter on the edge of absolute sexual assault/abuse?” she wondered. “I don’t think we do. We’ve lived in a misogynistic world with misogynistic sex for so long. We thought this “bad sex” was normal. Until someone spoke up and said, this is NOT normal. This is not OK.”

Michael Cunningham, a psychology professor at the University of Louisville, said the Grace/Ansari encounter reflected misunderstandings that may arise due to differences between conventional dating relationships and hook-ups.

“It appears that Grace wanted Ansari to treat her as a potential girlfriend to be courted over multiple dates, rather than a pickup from a party engaging in a mutually acceptable transaction,” Cunningham wrote in an email. “When he did not rise to her expectations, she converted her understandable disappointment into a false #MeToo.”

Liz Wolfe, managing editor of Young Voices, a D.C.-based organization that distributes op-eds by millennials, said the Ansari story gets at the core of what men and women are taught regarding dating, sex and romance. Men should pursue, women should play hard to get.

“So many women have wondered in a situation, ’Have I said “no” decisively enough?’” Wolfe said. “They can’t quite figure out whether they want to go forward or leave. ... And from the male perspective, he can’t quite figure out what the woman wants.”

Wolfe has noticed a generational divide in their reactions. Older women tend to think Grace should have been more vocal and assertive, or simply left Ansari’s apartment. Younger women feel that Ansari should have read Grace’s body language and listened to her more closely, and he was at fault for pressuring her.

Among men, likewise, there are varying views.

Tahir Duckett of ReThink, a nonprofit seeking to deter boys and young men from committing sexual assault, says the #MeToo movement “is exactly where it needs to be” as it continues to embolden victims.

“This moment absolutely calls for a changed approach to dating and courtship,” he said. “It means paying just as much attention to body language as we do to words, and stopping to check in if at any time you’re anything less than 100 percent certain the other participant is as enthusiastic as you about what’s going on.”

However, Glenn Sacks, a commentator who writes often about men’s issues, said the Ansari case buttresses his belief that #MeToo “is lumping the trivial mistakes or misdeeds of the many in with the genuinely awful actions of a handful.”

Warren Farrell, an early member of the National Organization for Women who more recently has authored such books as “Why Men Are the Way they Are” and “The Boy Crisis,” suggested that women should bear more of the responsibility for initiating sexual interest. And he recommended training in schools for each gender to view relationship issues from the other’s perspective.

“When #MeToo focuses only on women complaining and not both sexes hearing each other, it reinforces the feeling of women as fragile snowflakes rather than empowered to speak, and empowered to listen,” Farrell said. “Boys and men, like girls and women, also grew up confused about what was expected of them sexually in a culture that did not make speaking about sex easy for either sex.”

Alexandra Allred, an author and self-defense instructor in Dallas, groaned when she read Grace’s account of her evening with Ansari.

“It really does sound like it was a mutual thing, but she thought about it later and she didn’t enjoy herself,” Allred said. “But this is the story of millions of young women everywhere, where you just made a mistake. This does not belong to the #MeToo movement. She should have just kept this to herself.”

As a supporter of the movement, Allred worries that this kind of story might generate a backlash and prompt skepticism when other women report abuses.

“This isn’t show and tell,” she said. “This is a movement to educate people and hopefully stop the violence.”

Comments

SyedChaudhryGangaDinKhan Jan 18, 2018 01:30pm
I believe the accuser.
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Hashmat Khalid Jan 18, 2018 01:34pm
It happens time and again when the entire society remains on the wrong path. Cure is only possible when the routes are cured and cleaned with perfection and cure of leaves will not bring any result.
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Lodi Jan 18, 2018 01:59pm
This has gone too far...
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S R Jan 18, 2018 02:39pm
Spend a day as a woman on the streets and then only you are allowed to talk about what is and is not harassment. As a working pakistani woman i don't know a single female of any class who has not faced it at least once. may i say once is already too much?! Although, as a college student in the 90s on public transport i have been touched and stared and cornerned and propositioned in many ways by people ranging from professors to wagon drivers. The concept is if shes out there shes asking for it. An arranged rishta guy also once followed me to office and demanded i explain why my family said no to his proposal. It was always nausea inducing and made me feel sad and dirty and afraid, even when i knew perfectly well the fault lies with them not me. I ignored it all as prescribed by society and learnt evasion tactics from women peers over time. As for Ansari, do we really need to discuss an American perspective or narrative when we have our own to resolve?
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helping hands Jan 18, 2018 03:42pm
@S R Spot on SR!
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JawAd Jan 18, 2018 05:37pm
Truth is that human emotions are always complex and what seems above the line at one moment can feel below the line at another moment . Character is defined as those people where the line has a high bar and does not change from one moment to another . My friends in Pakistan who believe these are problems of the West are totally in denial . Our social setup makes expression hard and it leads to depravity and we actually have created more perversion as a result and to top that don’t talk about it . It’s refreshibg to see once Zainab became a headline a dozen other cases followed almost immediately from different parts of the country..Metoo is a great way to create awareness ; it may have started with noble intentions of not being taboo but it maybe resulting in stories making it cool.
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Alba Jan 18, 2018 06:22pm
What this psychiatrist is saying is, "Too many women have joined #MeToo too quickly and unthinkingly, and it is making me uncomfortable.”
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Tamilselvan Jan 18, 2018 09:56pm
@S R . I salute you for your thought provoking true comments . Now we understand women plight all over the planet though it could be in different degrees.
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MA Jan 18, 2018 11:07pm
This is what is called " jump on the band wagon".
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Josephina Jan 18, 2018 11:07pm
@SR - Your words 'Nausea inducing, feeling sad, dirty and afraid' need to be etched in gold. I couldn't have said it better. Pakistan is generally a toxic place for women, whether you are working, using public transport or if for any reason you are living alone (hostel, apartment). Society judges working and independent females as loose and there are very few exceptions to this generalization. I have first hand experience of working Pakistan, Middle East, Europe and North America. The amount of put downs, workplace oppression and show of male dominance I saw in Pakistan was the highest of all places. It's also the only place where a woman walking alone in a public park to get exercise is considered loose. To add insult to injury, if you point it out you get accused of criticizing the whole country for acts of a few men. Its not a few men. Its the whole society with few exceptions. The West isn't Paradise either but the issue isn't as rampant and unapologetic as is in Pakistan.
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Dr Patel Jan 19, 2018 12:01am
@S R : Bravo! You go girl....
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Sara Jan 19, 2018 11:50am
It's difficult to say who is tells no the truth.
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Asma Jan 20, 2018 03:47pm
@S R you're absolutely right. Only a woman can understand the agony resulting out of such harassment. Worst is that it never stops and never taken seriously as something bad. I'm glad people have started talking about this and At least know if not convinced that this leaves an everlasting perturbed impact on the minds of victims.
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Neo Jan 20, 2018 08:17pm
@Asma. Don't forget agony of a defenceless child.
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Vijay B. Jan 20, 2018 10:05pm
Et tu Aziz Ansari? Who would have thought? Shame on you.
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