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Qandeel Baloch is dead because we hate women who don't conform

Qandeel had only just begun to grasp what she stood for: that women should be able to live how they want, no judgement
Updated 15 Jul, 2019

This is what we know about Qandeel Baloch:

She liked the water, she swam. In her videos and photos, she wore the same clothes over and over — a white bathrobe, a pink polka-dot dress. She had a sense of humour.

Her real name was Fauzia Azeem. She was born into a perfectly ordinary, socially conservative family. She married young, had a son. She walked away from that marriage when it didn't work out. She wanted, in her own words, "to be able to stand on my own two feet, to do something for myself."

Her Facebook persona, Qandeel Baloch, was followed by practically a million people. She posted pictures on social media that Pakistan deemed 'bold,' a term in the nation's vernacular that has come to signify a certain kind of sexual openness.

All these facts are now overwritten by what happened in the last few hours.

What we now know about Qandeel Baloch is that she is dead, according to police, killed at the hands of a brother who felt he'd been 'dishonoured.'

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At this newspaper, we ran our first story on Qandeel Baloch in October 2015. When we first saw her on social media she was pouting and posing, imploring her audience to answer the question "How I'm looking?" We were amused and intrigued. "Who is this girl?" we wondered.

In the odd way Pakistani culture has of being both accepting of difference (case in point: Ali Saleem successfully ran a talk show which he hosted in drag) and fiercely protective of its imagined purity (case in point: Veena Malik was bashed in 2011 for appearing on the cover of an Indian magazine, sporting little but an 'ISI' tattoo), Qandeel was both coveted and reviled.

She was a young woman who clearly didn't abide by the unspoken rule that in Pakistan, your private self and your public self ought to remain distinct from each other. She blurred that line. Through her photos and videos, she invited us into her bedroom, her bed. She directly addressed the camera and her audience, asking them what they wanted next: a selfie? or something more?

A screenshot from her music video, 'Ban.'
A screenshot from her music video, 'Ban.'

From the comments that appeared under her posts, young men wanted to be with her; they also wanted to snuff her out. Young women were horrified by her 'immodesty'; they also lauded her for doing exactly as she pleased.

By the end of 2015, via frequent Facebook and Instagram posts, Qandeel had firmly established her place in Pakistan's burgeoning celebrity landscape. Of course, she wasn't the first young woman to be crowned the nation's 'boldest' entertainer. Before her, we've had Meera, Veena, Mathira and more.

But while they coyly tiptoe around questions of their sexuality, their motivations and their attachments — Qandeel set herself apart by being unabashed about her desire to be a screen siren, somebody who provokes. On a TV show, she proclaimed Sunny Leone was one of her role models. On Instagram, she had no qualms about saying she was sexy.

Though she wasn't exactly an open book, she was honest about her ambitions.

And as has been proved today, if you're a woman in Pakistan, ambition can get you killed.

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At this newspaper, we followed Qandeel's short career closely. We reached out to her often. Depending on her mood, she'd either ignore our calls or initiate long, meandering conversations.

As her posts began to be viewed by more people and as she began to be covered by mainstream newspapers, I believe she became aware of her power to deliver certain messages about being female in Pakistan. Around this time, I began to see Qandeel as a burgeoning advocate for increasing women's visibility in Pakistan.

And so, we ran pieces questioning why Pakistanis harboured so much hate for Qandeel. And I got a lot of flak for giving her so much coverage. A few days ago, one commentator asked me something along the lines of: "You're covering Qandeel so much, what's next, reporting from a brothel?"

Recently, Qandeel was beginning to understand the significance and reach her fame afforded her
Recently, Qandeel was beginning to understand the significance and reach her fame afforded her

All of this criticism made clear what most Pakistanis thought of Qandeel: they'd tolerate her as long as she was nothing but a sex object, because they were titillated. But as soon as she started entertaining them in the name of women's rights, she was to be condemned.

Earlier this year, it became clear that what Qandeel may have started as a lark was becoming very personal to her. We understood that she had an agenda. She was beginning to understand the significance and reach her fame afforded her, and she seemed to have adopted a narrative of empowerment that would resonate not only with the international community, but also with Pakistan's more progressive population.

A few days ago, when news of her brief marriage broke, we spoke to her for what would be the last time. She was distraught, but very frank with the writer who called her.

"I am a social media sensation, I am a fashion icon," she said. "I don’t know how many girls have felt support through my persona. I’m a girl power. So many girls tell me I’m a girl power, and yes, I am."

I think she was girl power.

Yes, she was evasive, moody, an enigma. But of late, she'd begun to grasp exactly what she stood for. She had opinions about patriarchy, I believe she was educating herself, and not just for fame, but because her life had showed her that the world is a difficult place for women and she wanted to change that.

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What we know about Qandeel Baloch is that she was on her way to becoming a cultural icon.

She was a media-savvy ouroboros, consuming yesterday's image and the response it garnered to construct her persona afresh tomorrow.

She was both a product and a reflection of the precarious state of Pakistan today, where neither liberalism nor conservatism has definitively ousted the other, where women are increasingly visible in the public eye yet are also still murdered with casual nonchalance, where fame may buy you social mobility, but only if you play by the rules of the privileged class.

Some people will accuse the media of lionising her in her death, of retroactively ascribing meaning to her persona, her cause.

We have to ask ourselves if we did enough.
We have to ask ourselves if we did enough.

I want to make clear that this is precisely the tragedy.

I don't think Qandeel herself was clear on who she was, what exactly she wanted to represent. Qandeel had only just begun. She had a long way to go, and if she hadn't been killed for honour, I have no doubt that she would've gone very far.

In one of her last posts, Qandeel said: "As women we must stand up for ourselves. As women we must stand up for justice. I believe I am a modern day feminist... I am just a women with free thoughts free mindset and I LOVE THE WAY I AM."

Today, I type her name into a search bar, click through her Facebook posts. Her dark eyes and feline brows interrogate my motivation.

"Did you stand up for me?" they ask. "Did you do everything you could?"

That's the question we have to live with now.


The writer can be reached on Twitter.

Comments

Varun Jul 16, 2016 04:18pm
A disgusting act of taking away the life of another human being and which never be pardoned .After all ,this is an act of double standards outside and inside of ones home . The brother needs to be tried and convicted for murder
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Prapur Jul 16, 2016 04:29pm
I read her interview yesterday in dawn and impressed by her success of a girl coming from small poor community and making to open world. Women power in Pakistan is too much to ask for or even equality. Some Pakistani readers commented on Sania and conservative Muslims about her dress code for being tennis player. I had commented on Sania's article that she would not be safe in Pakistan hence lives in UAE or India. I never thought the death was awaiting for Qadeel for being independent and pursuing her dream after getting college degree . RIP . Sorry to say that Pakistani society is not tolerating or allowing women to get educated like Malala and others.
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Naveed Jul 16, 2016 04:32pm
@Varun "The brother needs to be tried and convicted for murder" Why, were you expecting that he's not going to be touched by the Police? There is a law against murder after all. It applies to everyone. Without you stating the obvious as 'needs to be'. Surely he'll either spend a long time in prison or be hanged for it.
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Ali S Jul 16, 2016 04:40pm
I may not agree with the author's views that Qandeel was an outspoken advocate for "women's rights" (don't get me wrong, there are plenty of brave women from Pakistan doing that, including Malala), but she was a lost girl who was trying to make something of herself the only way she knew how to. I feel sorry for her and she certainly didn't deserve such an end - if anything, it's her brother who has disgraced his family's honour, not her. Pakistan is a terrible place to be a woman, period - whether you're bold, ambitious, talented or intelligent is secondary to your gender here, and it's just sad.
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Ash Jul 16, 2016 04:41pm
and I thought Pakistan is changing.!! May her soul rest in peace.
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Sunil Jul 16, 2016 04:58pm
Brothers are suppose to protect sister. It her way of life, cutting it short.
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Qamar Valliani Jul 16, 2016 04:59pm
Nobody can do anything when relatives kill their own. These killers do not show their intentions unless they talks with their families about their reasons. Finally the law takes it course.
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Adil Jadoon Jul 16, 2016 05:02pm
Shame on her brother! In pakistan we spend too much time and effort yelling others what to do and not enough on what we should be doing.
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manoj rattan Jul 16, 2016 05:12pm
@Adil Jadoon thismenace of honour killing is pervasive in south asia , it has tobe fought
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manoj rattan Jul 16, 2016 05:14pm
honour kiling is menace across south asia
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Ali Arsalan Pasha Jul 16, 2016 05:16pm
It's sad that she died - and it is horrible that she has become a case of honour killings. Her brother deserves lifetime imprisonment/death penalty - and that is that. A murder, regardless of gender or motivation, is a murder. But please, stop drawing parallels between Qandeel and "girl power". Let's leave that purely post-WW2 European motif of gender pigeonholing in Europe and in India. Pakistan has its own perspective and standard of women - largely based on Islam and somewhat on geographic norms. Calling Qandeel girl power and heralding as a cultural icon - is a sad, sad perspective. The fact that she died, is a sad reality. Doesn't mean her behaviour when alive was laudable and inspiring.
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Saifullah Tareen Jul 16, 2016 05:19pm
@Ali S the whole world is a terrible place to be a women .... In that respect. What do you think is happening in developed world. Women are not paid same even in US and EU. Before commenting please put your facts straight and make relevant comments.
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Saifullah Tareen Jul 16, 2016 05:21pm
@Ali Arsalan Pasha very well written closing remarks
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Mukul Jul 16, 2016 05:35pm
@Naveed naveed look at the past ' if a famly 'forgave" a murderer, no charges were brought so Varun is right to be concerned
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B.Ally Jul 16, 2016 05:43pm
An other brave soul gone aray at the hands of intolerance.
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PakCanuck Jul 16, 2016 05:46pm
completely agree that we quash any woman who does not conform to our male society Some are killed but most are mentally, physically tortured
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Ilias Jul 16, 2016 06:10pm
It shouldn't be ended like this horrible news...I would rather say unjustice all around in our country !
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Salman Jul 16, 2016 06:29pm
No body has the right to kill any body. A person cannot and should not be a judge of another person's acts. Almighty is there to judge. May her soul rest in peace.
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Shaiza Shah Jul 16, 2016 06:31pm
I so want to get in touch with the author! You have written amazing articles on Qandeel and women empowerment.
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someone Jul 16, 2016 06:59pm
@Saifullah Tareen Yes but they dont get killed for such things in other countries,,please have some respect for human life!
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pratap Jul 16, 2016 07:35pm
veri common in pakistan these day!
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Abraham Haque Jul 16, 2016 07:36pm
@Naveed because in Pakistani legal system honor killings are acceptable stop living in land of fantasy
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Rafter Jul 16, 2016 07:37pm
@Ali Arsalan Pasha In a way, she was. I don't know if I'd go so far as to call her a cultural icon, but the kind of openness she represented was somewhat unprecedented i.e. "sex appeal." In a country where women are still treated as second-class citizens, she was far ahead of her time culturally because Pakistan isn't ready for that. But having the freedom to express oneself is something we should all be afforded.
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Agha Ata Jul 16, 2016 07:38pm
Qandeel Baloch was the girl who stretched the status quo of women and now helping them better to evolve them in the right direction with speed.
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Raj Patel Jul 16, 2016 07:48pm
@Naveed Really you believe there exist justice in Pakistan ?? I give you one example for test. If you proud to be Pakistani you need to go dip in to that event. Few years ago in Sialkot, there are two young brothers were brutally lynch in front of police in bright day light. Inquire about the case and you will come across the truth you would not like to even remember in your dream.
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Fawad Rafi Jul 16, 2016 07:57pm
If we hated women who don't conform, Qandeel would not have become a celebrity. I mean with due respect, she had absolutely no talent to justify her celebrity status. I see this purely as a family issue, not a general society problem. Her brothers were probably conservative, decent people facing embarrassment due to their sister's vulgar shenanigans. They just snapped and killed their sister in rage, instead of simply ostracizing her from the family. Now they will face jail. Moral of the story: Stay away from your family if your values are so different.
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atif khan Jul 16, 2016 08:05pm
@Sunil well said ..single sentence says it all
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K. Joshi Jul 16, 2016 08:07pm
@Naveed Will the hanging or punishment be the permanent solution without educating society about gender sensitization?? It is not the killing of a human-being but the killing of the humanity and killing of women empowerment and right for expression in a islamic country, in a bigotry society. May this incident start a debate in Pakistani society, Women Commission and leadership for a change to provide good governance safe, secure and quality life for every citizen without suppression or threat.
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DNiwasi Jul 16, 2016 08:08pm
Cowards who were afraid of her, who could not debate her, who do not believe in justice and freedom killed her, a person with style, beauty, intelligence and wit. Her brother must have been pressured by fundamentalist elements in Pakistani society. Pakistani society has been tolerating Mullah's nonsense for decades- since day one of becoming an independent country.
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kit kit Jul 16, 2016 08:20pm
Pakistan can be a terrible palce for women of Candeels background. I think the fact that she felt she had to sexualsie herself on th net to make something of herself says a lot about the politicians o f this country. What did Benzir ever do for women and now her daughter is pontificating about the murder. the truth is the likes of Candeel are murdered daily in a metaphorical sense forced marriages to men just to survive. Candeel was bold and clever with a strong sense of self but even then only found a way out through selling herself. where were all the jobs created for women by Benazir, None not even in vital roles like policing.Truth is village girls lives are cheap there as we saw Candeel being married off like a goat I think disgraceful Bhuttos and Sharifs need to stay out of simplified judgments re this case
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Sami Jul 16, 2016 08:22pm
We, in South Asia, are such a culture of double standards! Men in our culture are brought up in a manner where they grow up to become control freaks. In a vicious circle where women, as mothers, are mostly responsible for, subconsciously, teaching their sons to grow up to become controlling monsters and these same men grow up to control the next generation of women. Mullahs help with suggestions like, "lightly beating" women. Life goes on... But not for those who try to effect change. This cycle is so deeply rooted in our society that I frankly don't see a way to end it.
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kit kit Jul 16, 2016 08:22pm
@Saifullah Tareen oh plese there are issues over there but nothing compared to Pak. Stop being disingenuous and wake up to reality
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My-2-cents Jul 16, 2016 08:22pm
I do not agree with most of the author's views. Need to understand how does one define fighting for women's right? Need to establish that first, then need to evaluate on is fighting for those rights or is it something else. But on the other hand, what the Brother did is totally disgusting and unacceptable. He should be tried and appropriate punishment should be awarded.
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kit kit Jul 16, 2016 08:30pm
@Ali Arsalan Pasha I dont belive in flouting cheap cringy sexuality as girl power but Candeel did manage to leave a hideous forced marriage in rural Pakistan and pursued dreams of going to Dubai. Poeple would have laughed at her if she told them that whilst she was 'married ' tot hat disgraceful man As such she is an inspiration for others that anything is possible.I am sure if I was a young woman stuck in a village in Pakistan Candeel would be my icon , not Malala who had all the backing of well educated parents and the western political elite world. In effect she had it handed on a plate. Im not for one moment suggesting people sexualise themselves but Candeel is an inspiration for self belief and determination Most people wouldnt have questioned or dreamed that was possible fter spending time with that horrible man and even ending up with his child. Live of women are so cheap in such places that they felt the need to gift a bright young women to that worthless man.
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atif Jul 16, 2016 08:32pm
@Ali Arsalan Pasha bilkul sai kaha bro,.. she should not have been killed liked that , she needed love from family and some serious counselling as it was against the norms of Pakistani and Islamic women... she should have been helped ..but there was no one to do that... :(
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Arnold Bush Jul 16, 2016 08:33pm
A murder is a murder, i.e., taking the law into one's own hand. It is condemnable. However, please keep the record straight. Killed because she had ambitions? What she was doing was not about conformance. She was putting up soft-core pornography for all and sundry to see. Sure, everyone watches porn, but no one admires it.
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Others Jul 16, 2016 08:34pm
@Naveed "..Without you stating the obvious as 'needs to be'. Surely he'll either spend a long time in prison or be hanged for it...." What if her family pardons their son or take blood money. Enlighten me if this can't happen, this has happened before and heard it's all legal.
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Aitullah Sra Jul 16, 2016 08:37pm
Yes she is dead now, but her million followers would keep him alive in there thoughts and discussions. Sorry, but we are living in a coward society where masculinity is the only right to live and express. However, the freedom of expression is easy to understand but hard to scream in a perfect unison. What crime she did? expect to express herself in bold manner that is not allowed in our conservative society. In fact, it is the murder of liberal and progressive voice. good by QB
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sana-1 Jul 16, 2016 08:56pm
Only if people try to educate their 'sons' instead of their 'daughters' then they will not commit such murders of their sisters, wives or daughters or even a road crossing women! The problem in Pakistan is everyone try to restrict their daughters, teach their daughters, have an opinion on them and the sons are allowed to do whatever they want to.....that is where the problem starts!
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Sal Jul 16, 2016 08:56pm
What her brother did was wrong. However, what she was doing was wrong as well. It's not a matter of conforming to society. It's a question of raising the level of women through respectable means, not selling your self like a cheap .....
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Rob Jul 16, 2016 08:57pm
A sad commentary on Pakistani society at large. Where this country is headed is to be seen but it has been destroyed from within.
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Zari Jul 16, 2016 09:00pm
We condemn the brother's actions and he should be punished. But selling yourself cheap (like Hollywood and Bollywood actresses) is not the way to bring about positive change for women - that's nothing to do with conforming to society - more to do with popularity and money!
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Talkn Parrot Jul 16, 2016 09:03pm
Shame.
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SwamyG Jul 16, 2016 09:04pm
She is dead because of the feudal mentality that persists with many men across the globe. Most people who claim to fight for "honor" (whatever that is) or "religion", if you observe their own life styles, in most cases neither care for the life style or nor are they as religious in their lives. It is all about their power - exercising the power they don't have but feel entitled to! - SwamyG
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Hmmm Jul 16, 2016 09:05pm
Real life "Divergent"..... Don't confirm = Kill
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Salman (Kashmir, INDIA) Jul 16, 2016 09:08pm
Only few days back I was wondering how she managed to be alive in this orthodox Pakistani society with so many controversies and then comes this news...... I am speechless....
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Saify Jul 16, 2016 09:14pm
@Prapur i read yesterday an indian rich guy who was famous for wearing gold was beaten to death. Any comments on that or u just like pointing fingures?
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Humma Jul 16, 2016 09:22pm
Her brother had no right to kill her He must be punished
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S Ali Jul 16, 2016 09:23pm
@Ali S Totally concur with your comments. While she was a lost girl, she didn't deserve such a horrific end of her life. I attribute this killing to our society and specially the Govt to allow tarnishing the image and outlook of a Country that we freed to practice our pure and clean religion Islam. In a society, where Islamic laws and culture is openly violated, no body has a right to go on killing spree of non-conforming Muslims.
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Chenko Jul 16, 2016 09:45pm
@Naveed what if the kin pardons. Correct me if I am wrong the kin can forgive right? In this case he is the kin.
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Ismail Jul 16, 2016 09:50pm
"Pity the nation that is full of beliefs and empty of religion. Pity a nation that despises a passion in its dream, yet submits in its awakening. Pity the nation that raises not its voice save when it walks in a funeral, boasts not except among its ruins..." - Kahlil Gibran She was born into backwardness but refused to submit to the tyranny of patriarchy in Pakistan. She was abhorred by men, ostracized by women, amused the youth and offended the self-proclaimed moral police. What bothered her about Pakistan was its core of hypocrisy. What bothered Pakistanis about her was that she showed up that hypocrisy in the crystal clarity of social media. She is gone, and so have a dozen or so girls in the past couple of months, butchered by the ones they loved, trusted and lived amongst. We are savages. Pakistan is in darkness. Perhaps we are beyond pity and redemption.
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Shiva Jul 16, 2016 09:52pm
@Naveed because it was an "honor killing" not murder to the brother
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karur Jul 16, 2016 10:02pm
This concept of honor killing... whose honor and who defines it? Women who threaten conservative Muslim societies with modernity are doomed. It is little wonder that so many Muslim women have blossomed when living in free open societies in the west. It is a sad day for Pakistan and my heart goes out to the young woman whose only crime was to dare the establishment. Sad day!
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Andy Jul 16, 2016 10:02pm
Sad day for Pakistan, and the world.
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sanjit Jul 16, 2016 10:03pm
Most men of the Sub-continent cannot digest the fact Women can be independent both economically and socially. The very mindset of us Men must change who try to treat women as cattle /livestock. Qandeel Baloch RIP
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Arsalan Jul 16, 2016 10:06pm
There is no honour in killing.
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N D Gaur Jul 16, 2016 10:12pm
@Ali Arsalan Pasha There may be many around you in your society whose behaviour might not be laudable and inspiring, but that does not give some "righteous" people the excuse to take it upon themselves to rid society of all such people.
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Saifullah Jul 16, 2016 10:13pm
@Saifullah Tareen Haha! A typical apologist. Just because every society has poverty, everyone is equal. Just because every society has homicides, there is the same rule of law everywhere. There is no difference in tolerance between Switzerland and Saudi Arabia. Great logic!
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ahaq Jul 16, 2016 10:15pm
There is a saying in Pakistan that says " You should spread your feet not more than the size of the sheet covering you". Unfortunately we have a case of a person killed by family member here. The person killed did not deserve it but we have to ask ourselves what seriously went wrong here that she ended up like this. If she knew well that things are going to get that bad, she should have not hung in the middle and should have declared herself separated from her family physically and mentally. A lot has also to do with the methods she used to push herself in a society that by and large reject depiction of certain behaviors or the influence of west on their culture. She had mentioned in several of her interviews that she was rejected by her family, so why did she think they will welcome her when she visits them. Worse yet she paid it with her life in the end.
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Sai Jul 16, 2016 10:28pm
It is extremely painful to learn about this dastardly cowardly act on a hapless woman. I am not saying this because I am from India and responding in a negative way because of all the anti India comments on Kashmir. Honor killings happen in India as well. We as a civil society need to stand up and decimate this evil. Qandeel for all her limitations stood out for her ability to speak her mind in a patriarchal society where Women especially in the Interiors are treated like dirt. We need to voice our opinion against any kind of fanatic discourse and nip it in the bud. The murderer should be convicted and punished in such a way no other person would dare to commit this crime. Qandeel.. you were not perfect... but you made your mark in your own special ways. Go well..
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danny Jul 16, 2016 10:31pm
The father must be asking God, Why did you give me those sons.
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Karma Jul 16, 2016 10:33pm
...I am speechless..........she didn't hurt or kill anyone.....and she paid the price for becoming famous.....I would blame media for project her image badly...
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Khilari Jul 16, 2016 10:38pm
Ok, quite obvious nothing is going to change in this hopeless land for thousand years. I have given up any hopes now.
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Jehanzeb Idrees Jul 16, 2016 10:42pm
Media killed her! She was a product MADE for Masala News with a nefarious design to win over a rat race for TRPs - sadly the cost of which was too much for her to pay.
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Indian Jul 16, 2016 10:50pm
Oh my God, I was her fan. She was such a beautiful woman. Pakistani People you are really very cruel. Why did you kill the innocent soul?
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anon Jul 16, 2016 10:57pm
@Varun He was forced and threatened by someone. If he was so offended, then he would have killed her long back. But he didn't, that shows he was still a brother who had a heart for his sister.
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a Jul 16, 2016 10:58pm
A girl born poor trying to be rich and famous. The family took its revenge. Mallika Sehrawat has a similar story. Luckily though, shes an Indian not Pakistani. We don't kill our girls who are bindaas. But I m really sad today. She should have been far more careful about her brothers though.
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Raza Jul 16, 2016 11:00pm
I am against killing of anyone and do not condone this disgusting / despicable act of murder. I would however like it to be noted that this woman was a very BAD influence for others. Even so, harming / killing is not justified.
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anon Jul 16, 2016 11:01pm
@Naveed Nothing will happen! Since she was a know figure, he will be put in jail for an year or two to hoodwink the world.
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Tanveer Jul 16, 2016 11:09pm
How do we know it was honor killing and not just another dispute between the siblings? After all she had been living and doing what she was doing for quite sometime and brother could kill her earlier if he was so despised.
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T AHMED Jul 16, 2016 11:14pm
Horrifying to know, young outspoken girl,killed by so called Honour Killing, at the behest of more likely family members, bringing shame for violating society morals. I felt that misogynistic attitude and behaviour of certain powerful clans, has deprived of women' s right. This is more cultural stigma, advocated by cruel and ruthless so called chieftains, ordering to kill person, rather giving them , a second chance to reflect and change approach to the life. Killing even a small animal or hurting anyone is not permissible in Islam, and we have made Religion, more difficult and awkward, to serve our own short sighted aims and desire.
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amina Jul 16, 2016 11:27pm
@Naveed What makes you think that she will get justice? Pakistan has a honor law in which family member can "forgive" killer if it is an honor killing. In this case, the killers are family members. All they have to do is forgive themselves and Pakistani laws are completely impotent against such honor killings.
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amina Jul 16, 2016 11:30pm
@Qamar Valliani You can arrest and put them to jain, can't you? But no, this is an honor killing, so family members will "forgive" themselves and it will be all over. Since in Pakistan family members can forgive killer in the case of honor killings, family members can openly carry out murders by calling it honor killing and forgiving themselves. So don't say what can one do. Every civilized nations do things to prevent such things.
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amina Jul 16, 2016 11:31pm
@Ali Arsalan Pasha All talk and no action. The killers will go free because there is a explicit provision in Pakistan law that family members can forgive killer if it is honor killing and here the killing itself is by family member.
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Lkmohan Jul 16, 2016 11:44pm
Beautiful girls life cut short by the Illiterate brother's hand so sad.
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Ben Jul 16, 2016 11:45pm
People who understood her or supported her in any way, should have been more supportive of her and her fears, that her life was in danger. Media and the entertainment industry should have done more to support and protect this young soul. Now that they failed spectacularly, they must keep her memories alive and try their utmost to help with a positive and hopeful narrative for women empowerment. Media in Pakistan is not free and impartial, but someone, somewhere must work hard to get her justice and make an example out of her killers.
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Ahsan Jul 16, 2016 11:45pm
A murder can never be justified May her soul rest in peace Bt stop defaming my country by portraying that Pakistan is not safe for ambitious women there are thousands of them like an agricultural engineering student represented Pakistan internationally with an idea of mobile agriculturing i never read an article about her in any main stream media stop fooling people. Moreover there are various business tycoon, IT specialist, Microsoft certified and many more Long Live Pakistan
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Shahzad Akhund Jul 16, 2016 11:47pm
Whenever and wherever, the legal system, or those who are supposed to enforce the rule of law, condone extra-judicious practices, such as 'honour killing', such barbaric acts will prevail.
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Syed Zafar Kazmi U.S.A Jul 17, 2016 12:02am
While the author has written so much and calls for an equally elaborate comment, I am restricted to brevity of few lines. I beg to differ with every word, idea and thought the writer presents here. While, Qandeel's murder is an atrocity, a grievous tragedy, she was no "burgeoning advocate for increasing women's visibility", her life was no epitome of women's rights and nor was she any 'cultural icon' . While anyone should be granted the right to live life according to her/his mind, thoughts, ideas, wishes and even whims, freedom the most sought after cherished goal of human aspiration, can not be and has never been boundless even in the most liberal western world. While the writer is full of praise for so many attributes of the free spirit of Qandeel and cites her innocent love for water, swimming and" in her videos and photos, she wore the same clothes over and over — a white bathrobe, a pink polka-dot dress." I have no problem accepting all that as simple pleasures of a breathing, living soul until I had seen her not so very innocent video in which she is barely dressed and is busy making the most provocative gestures before a singing male partner. Is it entertainment? Iconic culture? We, in the western world of the free and emancipated, call it 'Soft porn'. Is that not entertainment? Sure, for many it is but we don't call it iconic culture or emblem of women's equality. What we call it is no fault of Qandeel Baloch, it is our fault to glamorize and glorify it under titles she has never set claim to.
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Syed Zafar Kazmi U.S.A Jul 17, 2016 12:05am
@Ali S I do like your comment; very balanced and sensible.
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shiv@UK Jul 17, 2016 12:13am
Respect People's feelings, even if it does not mean anything to you. It could mean everything to them, let us not be judgemental about others Sanskars just because we do not carry the same Sanskars. -Living Values
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shiv@UK Jul 17, 2016 12:13am
Respect People's feelings, even if it does not mean anything to you. It could mean everything to them, let us not be judgemental about others Sanskars just because we do not carry the same Sanskars. -Living Values
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ravi Vancouver Jul 17, 2016 12:14am
Very sad to hear murder of Qandeel Baloch. She is a martyr for women freedom struggle in Pakistan. To defeat such a strong hold of men over women in Pakistan need much more sacrifices by women. For any change to come in a society, sacrifices and boldness is required, Malala and Qandeel are few example of the sacrifices by brave Pakistani women. Conservatism is understandable but killing a person in the name of honor is a very coward act and against Islamic teachings as per many Islamic clerics, it is really sad that Muslims ignore all good teachings of their great religion and suffer its consequences at present time. I wish success for women's continued struggle for their freedom and empowerment.
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Naeem Jul 17, 2016 12:45am
What happened was wrong and disgusting. However I would strongly question her being an advocate of 'womens rights'. She was a misguided attention seeker, I seriously doubt she had intentions on working on empowering women.
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savvy Jul 17, 2016 01:00am
@Ali Arsalan Pasha : Cant digest seeing a free woman ? she was definitely more a salt than your petty existence who stoops low to denounce a person even in death.
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junaid Jul 17, 2016 01:26am
I disagree with the title.. She was liked by people and killed by his brother which is a personal act.. It has nothing to do with the nation.... why do blame the whole society.... OK, Whatever she did with Mufti,, people liked it.. You may see how many prostitutes are working on daily basis, how many of them killed for so called honor.... problem with us is very simple,,,, any thing minor but make it against Pakistan as a black spot or depict that the whole nation is backward ,, and start condemning... be sensible
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Syed Ali Jul 17, 2016 01:27am
It was expected after her episode with a cleric.
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junaid Jul 17, 2016 01:28am
Look at this media,,, they probed out her past life, that she was divorced, and has a kid................ come on.................she divorced, it was her past and personal matter................ who has given this media so much liberty to decide who is right and wrong... when she was divorced then ex-husband has no right to defame and come to media.. they have no right on her present as it went off with divorce
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Sensible Man Jul 17, 2016 01:30am
To My Dear Pakistanis, "It is useless to cry over spilt milk".
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Khan Jul 17, 2016 01:41am
Our problem in Pakistan is Pakistani men. Women are never the problem, always men.
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Khan Jul 17, 2016 01:44am
@Saifullah Tareen Don't try to pretend that outsiders can't point fingers at Pakistan because of unequal pay in the west. In the west a woman can do whatever she wants and her rights are protected. Light years ahead of Pakistan.
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adil Jul 17, 2016 01:47am
@Ali Arsalan Pasha couldn't have said it better myself. Prayers for her, but to say that she was empowering women is just so wrong. She was definitely provocative when it came to religious and cultural norms. That way of life is demeaning to a woman and reduces her to a sexual object just to get shocked and or perverted following. It doesn't justify murder obviously, but please dont make her into a larger than life champion of womanhood.
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Prakash Jul 17, 2016 02:10am
I think her brother will be harshly punished.,cos this is a high profile case.with that countless other such crimes will be ignored and allowed to foster,and when questioned,,you will get"you know what we did with QB's killer "?
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Saleem Jul 17, 2016 02:22am
Cultural icon??? Which culture and whose culture? Loss of a human life is sad and a brutal murder is bad. But please, let's Not overdo it. She was, by no standard, representing women of Pakistan among whom are doctors, pilots, scholars, prime minister, engineers. Judges and professors. Late qandeel, on the contrary had sunnay Leone as her ideal. It is obvious that her aim in life was to become another sunny Leone or something like that. Her career however came to an abrupt end on this sixteenth day of the seventh month of the years two thousand sixteen. Otherwise, the good girl would have done a "lot" more
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BaasiDabalroti Jul 17, 2016 02:37am
We hate women who dont "conform"? No, We just hate women. Period.
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NDA Jul 17, 2016 02:37am
The media which gave her fame also killed her. She was filmed in wet cloth by " Ek Din Geo Ke Saath" and shown in the program. Not many could have liked that. In every society there are limits. Majority of us are first generation having moved from small towns and villages and exposed to shining screens and moments of liberty, leaving behind people who may not be able to judge differently.
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dPatel Jul 17, 2016 02:43am
This news contradicts a similar social taboo about marriage for widow. Today I watched Russian TV news magazine showing a 20 year old girl who married nine months ago and became a widow about two month ago. She just had just arrived to a women shelter. The girl was saying in Hindi that I am free to decide to marry again. Her mother-in-law told her that she is fourth daughter for her and both parents-in-law do not mind my finding a new husband. She decided to wait for marriage and start a college paid by the shelter and then will find a husband. The documentary was about success of social work organizations in changing the meaning of honor for women. For example social ban on widow remarriage, love marriage etc. Pakistan needs such grass-root reform organizations who can provide shelter and protection to women who wants to exercise their constitutional rights against social taboos.
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dPatel Jul 17, 2016 02:47am
News about India - This news contradicts a similar social taboo about marriage for widow. Today I watched Russian TV news magazine showing a 20 year old girl IN INDIA who married nine months ago and became a widow about two month ago. She just had just arrived to a women shelter. The girl was saying in Hindi that I am free to decide to marry again. Her mother-in-law told her that she is fourth daughter for her and both parents-in-law do not mind my finding a new husband. She decided to wait for marriage and start a college paid by the shelter and then will find a husband. The documentary was about success of social work organizations in changing the meaning of honor for women. For example social ban on widow remarriage, love marriage etc. Pakistan needs such grass-root reform organizations who can provide shelter and protection to women who wants to exercise their constitutional rights against social taboos.
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mkhan Jul 17, 2016 02:57am
@B.Ally One less pretty face out of so few in a lawless land. RIP
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Sameer Jul 17, 2016 03:03am
Though I am sorry for her I really am... turning yourself in to a sex object doesnt exactly make you a role model. She was no girl power. She was no advocate of women's rights. So lets be honest about it and rather than being played by liacists; recognise that in a world heavily adulterated by social media, she was an internet celebrity trying to shock her way to her 15 min of fame. May God have mercy.
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Sameer Jul 17, 2016 03:06am
@Varun The iconic business man "Indian Gold man Killed". Looks like this is a problem on both sides of the LoC.
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Raj Jul 17, 2016 03:22am
@manoj rattan ...." honour kiling is menace across south asia "..... If it was a South Asian phenomena to that proportion , Indians would have murdered Helen , Zeenat Aman and likes long time ago . And I am talking of 60s and 70s . So let us leave south Asia out of it and stick to Qandeel's country and its people . We have to agree that she was way out of line from the rest of the country girls . Always trying to push the envelope , rubbing in already inflamed emotions , too outrageous . Did some one say confused , yes . Not a role model but trying to live life on her own terms . Is it even possible in that society ? You won't find out unless you try . The max cost is your life and that is what she lost , sadly .
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PEACE SBREE Jul 17, 2016 03:28am
@ VARUN,, the whole predominantly man chauvinist mind set should be convicted. I want to dedicate only two lines from the poem of Shakeel Sahab. Wo hum se door hote ja rahe hai Bahut maghroor hote ja rahe hai Shakeel ihsase gumname se keh do K hum mashhoor hote ja rahe hai in english, Beloved from us is alienating swollen headed, pride inflating O Shakeel, we are coming in focus Sense of anonymity we are negating.
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JSingh Jul 17, 2016 03:43am
Any act to compromise the human life(male or female) irrespective of age reflects the mental instability of a person who commits the heinous act. The recent rise of the heinous crimes committed by dysfunctional uneducated families can potentially give rise to mistrust between family members and in turn is dangerous to the most important trusted bond in society - Family. The ridiculous foolish uneducated elements of society that intimidates the family members and promotes the dis-integration of family are dangerous to the society and the country. Let's bring back the faith in most trusted bond in society and instead of breaking the trusted bond let the society help build strongest trusted bond - Family Slogan: "Reform Yourself than Reforming Other" - "Live and Let Live"
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adnan Jul 17, 2016 03:57am
Sorry i do not agree with the writer. She was no cultural or fashion icon. this writer is exaggerating her position in the Pakistani modelling/ entertainment field. She was hardly seen for any brand endorsements or was she signed up for an HSY shoot? Thousands of women may have struggled through jobs to get to where they are now in Pakistan and to make a living. Not all would like to choose the ways of miss Qandeel. There is no sense is 'saint-fying' her posthumously. This article is a knee jerk reaction. As for her murder, the media in Pakistan behaved irresponsibly and we Pakistanis will never know the real reason behind her killing. Word on the street is quite LOUD; that is was NOT any honor killing
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cape traverse observer Jul 17, 2016 04:46am
This is why western companies resist spending in Pakistan. Primitive behaviour is not a big draw.
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Jitesh Jul 17, 2016 04:50am
@Naveed But won't the brother be pardoned by family? Won't he be free after victim's family (and also killer's family) pardons him?
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Peter Sanders Jul 17, 2016 05:25am
Killing your sister is what is dishonourable. He has destroyed not only her life but wrecked his own and brought Pakistan into disrepute around the civilized world. Truly, the enslaved only notice their chains when they try to move.
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Haider Jul 17, 2016 05:51am
What happened with here was wrong, but this is the realty and bitter truth what Pakistan has become overtime for everyone not only women. But she was wrong, lost and fake. being bold does not mean to get naked. She could not find any other way a better way to express herself. She was not a role model for anyone. People were following her on social media not because she as a role model. If you don't get it its called lust and that is also in western countries what she was trying to be. She got it what she wanted, fame, unfortunately in a wrong way but in that country it is a normal day to day issue and criminals never get punished.
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Sam Jul 17, 2016 06:33am
If your sense of honor requires you to take someone's life, start with your own.
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Kolsat Jul 17, 2016 06:53am
Qadeel's killer has been arrested which is good but the question is what if any sentence will he be given? I hope it is hanging so as to deter other murderers who are contempleting killing a sister, or daughter or any other female relative.
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Sachin Jul 17, 2016 06:55am
Our subcontinent has been very very cruel to women.
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AHA Jul 17, 2016 07:13am
Feel sorry for her. A misfit personality with surrounding. The religion in Pakistan is overshadowing human rights, and freedom. Due to blind following of 7th century Arab culture (Thinking this as Islamic culture) we are forgetting fundamental rights and current ground level realities. And off course vested interest of numerous religious groups are pushing us to lead a stone age life.
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Chakka Jul 17, 2016 07:36am
99.99% of the Pakistani people who have ever talked about Qandeel had totally abused her. 99.99% of the same Pakistani nation is somehow mourning her death today. This is how you spot on a lost, hypocrite and a confused nation.
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Jamsi Jul 17, 2016 07:55am
Amazed how illogical people could be, what do we know about the cause? Was it financial dispute? Was it a family dispute? Apparently she has been around for a while, so why this happened now. The point is let the concerned authorities do their job and not jump to conclusions. Feel sad for QB, but this author seems to be least concerned.
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zahrans Jul 17, 2016 07:56am
@manoj rattan Not really. In Sri Lanka where I come from there is no such thing as "honour killings" (and before anyone makes a snark reply) , not even amongst its muslim populace. And I have yet to see media reports showing this to be a common (if any) occurance in Maldives either.
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Akil Akhtar Jul 17, 2016 08:25am
Not we, her brother.....self hate is really becoming boring.
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Akil Akhtar Jul 17, 2016 08:26am
every time one person commits a crime we start blaming all of Pakistan.........speaks of our inferiority complex
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Rajesh Punjabi Jul 17, 2016 09:45am
She asked for the security as she was receiving life threats, and no one took her words. Women respect is in danger in such a talibani thinking..
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Rabaya Jul 17, 2016 09:49am
Yes, her brother did the actual killing. But the murder was precipitated by the outrage and hatred of millions of Pakistani men against Qandeel Baloch's "immoral" behaviour. Interestingly, these same pious Muslims are also the world's number one consumers of porn, see http://postober.com/general/top-10-countries-that-watch-the-most-porn Our uniquely Pakistani combination of misogyny and hypocrisy is breathtaking. The same people who denounced QB as "shameless" - our brothers, uncles, fathers, holy men - apparently have no problem indulging in all manner of shameless acts themselves with the curtains drawn. Who knows how many of them enjoyed being titillated by the very object of their scorn. This double standard needs to be constantly exposed, if we women are going to have any sort of voice in our country.
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Np Jul 17, 2016 09:55am
@Naveed "There is a law against murder after all. It applies to everyone." Many honor killers escape due to Qisas laws as their family forgives them. In this case thankfully father has filed an FIR against the sons.
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Np Jul 17, 2016 10:04am
@Fawad Rafi "I see this purely as a family issue, not a general society problem. Her brothers were probably conservative, decent people facing embarrassment due to their sister's vulgar shenanigans" If her brothers faced embarrassment, is this not a societal problem? Is there anything decent about a brother who kills his sister instead of protecting her?
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Imran Ahmed Jul 17, 2016 10:40am
A simple message to honour brigade: Men do not own women, nor do males have an innate right to control the sexuality of females.
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Imran Ahmed Jul 17, 2016 10:47am
@Naveed the honourable brother will be tried and convicted of the killing and then released under a law with an Arabic name. A law designed for such purposes.
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Sas Jul 17, 2016 10:53am
Why womens' conformity limited to EXHIBITIONISM as a sexual product rather than an INTELLECTUAL one : (.
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lbf Jul 17, 2016 10:58am
No. You don't hate women who don't conform, you hate people who don't conform. Is there a factor that is unique for your region or that distinguishes you from other regions that don't have those problems? What is it? Can you solve it? Why would it be so hard to solve it? Why is it so hard to oppose something so devious that imposes itself into every single aspect of your lives?
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Kamran Jul 17, 2016 11:13am
@Naveed really? You want me to give you 1000 examples where never happened? Or would you rather give us a few examples where it happened indeed?
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lbf Jul 17, 2016 11:16am
@Saifullah Tareen Right, because being killed in the name of a religion or "honour" is the same as being paid less, usually because one there is a risk of dropping out of company's life.
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Kamran Jul 17, 2016 11:18am
@Saifullah Tareen dear, they don't get killed like this. They have rights they sure use them. They are harassed at work and the guys is fired. They do whatever they want to. There are other reasons for unequal pay.
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illawarrior Jul 17, 2016 11:27am
Please stop calling them honour killings. Find another name., as they have nothing to do with honour and more to do with ego, false pride and male insecurity. Each of us is responsible solely for our own honour, and no one elses. If my brother, sister, mother, father etc does something dishonorable, it dishonours them, NOT me.
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illawarrior Jul 17, 2016 11:28am
@Naveed No. Under Pakistani law, he can easily be "forgiven" by the family and go scot free.
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Farhan Tipu Jul 17, 2016 11:32am
It is a complicated issue. Agreed on the right to chose and live prevails with a person and right to judge is with God. Some clarifications though i want to make it here: 1. She was not an internet celebrity but most of people used to visit her profile to satisfy their lust. Be clear about it. 2. the case of killing herself is having roots in society, work on change the society i.e. educate them and imply a strict negative reinforcement law which will make that a lesson. A stick will work better for the people who dont understand language of love.
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illawarrior Jul 17, 2016 11:32am
@Fawad Rafi Embarrassment is not grounds for murder. This woman was entitled to live her life as she saw fit, whether her brother approved or not.
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Jeetu Jul 17, 2016 11:40am
Big loss to Pakistan.An end of bold lady.Qandil aap lakho dilo par raj karke gaye.khuda aapko jannat de.
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Mo Jul 17, 2016 12:16pm
@Mukul The law is far more complicated than that, in recent times the law of qisas has not applied to many cases.
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Mo Jul 17, 2016 12:17pm
@pratap I can assure you its also very common in India, maybe have a look
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Mo Jul 17, 2016 12:19pm
@Agha Ata Really ? Did she do that ? So you supported her when she was alive or just after who heard the news of her Death ?
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shahrukh Jul 17, 2016 12:54pm
Now pakistan is going back to stone age,
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Sunny Jul 17, 2016 01:27pm
Nothing she was good looking young I don't know what to say
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KM Jul 17, 2016 01:45pm
I am so disappointed with everyone. Women's right are nessesary but if you claim to be a Muslim then she must not be playboy. Killing is bad but Pakistan does'nt promote such sexual activity.
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Shazif Jul 17, 2016 01:55pm
Ali arsalan conments are good and enough to summarize all discussion.
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Sam Jul 17, 2016 03:49pm
@Naveed His brother is in police custody and as per the current Pakistani law he will be tried and sure to get the punishment if proven guilty.
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Eramangalam Jul 17, 2016 04:11pm
@Khan Men are problem in all our countries my dear friend. They feel vulnerable and their inferiority complex is the main reason for almost all social problems involving women. This is another example of men using their only superiority, that is physical strength, to subjugate woman.
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Babrik Jul 17, 2016 07:22pm
@Raj Patel The murderers were sentenced to death. They are on death row. What are you on about?
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Asim Jul 17, 2016 07:25pm
@Sas Why not? Each of us is different. Why do you seek to impose your rigid view of what is good and what is bad on others? Why not just live and let live?
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RobertJr Jul 17, 2016 07:51pm
@Sunny You say you don't know what to say. Have you tried saying nothing? Try it. Its not hard. You can do it. Just shut up.
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Noshin Jul 17, 2016 08:10pm
I agree the writer
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Noshin Jul 17, 2016 08:12pm
No doubt she was bold and trying to place herself in the limelight but her show with aik din geo k sath sounds more about the personal exploitation and personal disinterest.
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Agha Ata Jul 17, 2016 09:52pm
We hate women because we are stupid. Who are we going to marry? We all are not gays. And, who would our children marry? Who will give us our grand- children. We need women more than they need us. We want our name to go down in the family, in the history. Without them we are nothing; our very existence is vulnerable. We should embrace them, love them, respect them, without them we couldn't be here. Read what Iqbal said: Vujood-e-zan se hey tasvir-e- kainat ka rang. . ."
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Maha Jul 17, 2016 10:09pm
@Ismail spot on !
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Tim Jul 17, 2016 10:28pm
The Pakistani patriarchy must be extremely weak, insecure and cowardly if a young woman speaking her mind can cause such fear and resentment.
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Raheel Jul 18, 2016 12:22am
She was a caterpillar, not yet transformed into butterfly. She was on a journey to achieve a better state but people killed her before that. That's what I understood from this piece and if that's so, I agree. She did not yet know what she represents but she had started educating herself on the narrative of feminism and empowerment. She always said that men want me to see this way and I am giving them that, and then she also tried to fight misogyny, which is quite paradoxical. She wanted attention and she was just beginning to stand up for herself and occasionally for other women too. She was a product of patriarchy, paradoxically she fought and fueled patriarchy concurrently, and was ultimately killed by patriarchy. Never it was discussed who was behind her for PR and as a manager. We all know how social media works.
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Sad Pakistani Jul 18, 2016 04:02am
@Naveed that's not the case. Honor killers are often 'pardoned' by the family and roam freely in Pakistan.
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Sad Pakistani Jul 18, 2016 04:10am
@Saifullah Tareen Not getting paid equally and getting killed for 'being different' Are not comparable. Acknowledging and accepting the problem is the first step towards a solution. West is not perfect but our society really needs to get at least in the 20th century. Half of us are women. One half cannot continue to treat the other half like property in a civilized society.
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Naheed Jul 18, 2016 05:07am
Wake up! Women are killed in India everyday, female infanticide is one of the highest in the world so the gender balance is skewed. No doubt, women are treated just as badly in Pakistan & this young girl, like thousands of others has paid this price. But surely you can't believe it's better in India where widows were burnt in sati and now when that was stopped, widows are mistreated because they have brought bad luck to their husbands who have died.
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Hashim Jul 18, 2016 05:50am
Please get your thought process right. Qandeel Baloch was murdered because we are still a conservative society where people still believe in that our culture and norms are different than what is portrayed by the media and the affluent and immodesty is not the norm.
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Arbab Jul 18, 2016 07:05am
Brothers are meant to b security..... not to killing,n MIss fozia azeem was a very very strong lady no doubt also a bold lady.
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Imtiaz khan Jul 18, 2016 09:30am
Qandeel had a mind of fruitfull toughts.look at her brother a drug addict unemployed and no one could say if he was even a brother of her.no doubt he was jeolus on her success and fame and murdered her
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Nikki Jul 18, 2016 09:45am
@Naveed So you're saying that if he mounts a defense based on the fact she dishonored him the charges will not be dismissed?!? I'll be following this very closely. We will see if this beautiful brave woman gets the justice she deserves.
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Sanjay Verma Jul 18, 2016 12:37pm
Disgusting, a young girl rather a young mother wanted to live on her terms ,but religious taboos and believes have taken her life ,surprise no women group in india or pakistan saying anything ,
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Maaz Pasha Jul 18, 2016 06:52pm
@Ali Arsalan Pasha.... You dont understand the BASIC idea of equality A woman is equal to man in all respect NOT IN PAKISTAN ...YES....Qandeel was a girl..she had all rights to do what she wanted , who are you talking about her MORALITY .
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Jawad Jul 20, 2016 08:06pm
The entire family had problems.
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Ahmad Jul 20, 2016 10:59pm
@Saifullah Tareen I am not agree with this statement. Women in Western countries are very powerful. They are well informed and no how to get rights and existence.
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Kaju Jul 15, 2019 04:36pm
She looked so nice on ban video. She is my favourite Pakistani model. I wish I could have met her.
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Adeel Jul 15, 2019 05:20pm
She was being appreciated and was having a wonderful open and free life.....until "Media" started to expose her as a negative persona, and that literally led her to her death...
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MONIER Jul 16, 2019 02:54am
A sad story indeed. She took a lot of U-turns in her life always ending up in the wrong direction.
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Moth Jul 16, 2019 03:11am
She paid the price of a change that keeps on postponing. That change is destined but the timing is not set.
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Utter patriot Jul 16, 2019 06:20am
Qandeel Baloch is dead because we hate women who are not of exactly the dormant material.
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