Updated Mar 08, 2017 07:27pm

How Hamza Ali Abbasi's video defending Imran Khan is painfully flawed

Imran Khan's recent 'phateechar' comment about the international PSL players took social media by storm as PTI fans and otherwise showed disappointment at his statement.

However, Hamza Ali Abbasi is of a different opinion.

Posting a video to Facebook, Abbasi shared his 'two cents' on the PTI leader's leaked video. It's not news that Hamza is vocal on social media and actively lands himself in hot water by making controversial statements.

However, instead of blindly agreeing with him or dismissing him outright - we analysed his statements. And after doing so, we'd like to point out some flaws in his 11 minute speech defending Imran Khan's "phateechar" comment.

Here's what he got...

Right: The PSL will not end terrorism in Pakistan

"Do you really think this was Pakistan versus terrorism and Pakistan won?" asked Hamza.

Hamza's rhetorical question was owing to the many Pakistanis who used the Cricket League's win to establish that terrorism has been defeated in Pakistan. However, as the actor points out, a sports match can't triumph over a long-prevailing issue, especially one that's taken years to address.

Sadly, that's the only thing he got right. Here's what he got...

Wrong: Terming his opinion as one from a neutral party

"Please take my views as a neutral Pakistani. I'm talking to you purely from a neutral standpoint as a concerned Pakistani," said Hamza.

Erm... what? Hamza Ali Abbasi is an avid PTI supporter and this is public knowledge, something he has actively promoted. So for him to say that his opinion comes from a neutral party and presents an untainted view when he is indirectly calling out other political leaders is just plain misrepresentation.

When it comes to politics, Hamza's previous endorsements and relationships prove he isn't neutral and he should have admitted to this.

Wrong: IK's remarks were made in a private space and so, should not be judged

"He [Imran Khan] used it [the word phateechar] in a private conversation. In a frank mahol (environment)... off-camera... Have you never used slang words when with your friends or in a private gathering? Why is it such a big deal?" said Hamza.

The problem with this statement of Hamza's is that he distinguishes between an individual's opinion in a public and private space, when the leader shoulder be questioned for holding such objectionable views.

Whether spoken in a personal space or public forum doesn't change Imran Khan's opinion. For someone looking to lead a country Imran should not have spoken as such and Hamza is trying to sidetrack that. That's like allowing an individual to act disagreeably in private and only holding him accountable when he acts as such publicly.

Wrong: Deflecting blame from Imran Khan by calling out corruption charges against other political leaders

"We're criticising a person who has never once been charged with corruption, or extortion. He has never been corrupt in his entire political life or even before it," said Hamza.

Pointing out charges against other political leaders and comparing them to IK's statement was in poor taste as it deflects the blame from IK.

Yes, corruption is a scourge. And yes, we should combat it. But that doesn't mean other offences (like being dismissive and rude) shouldn't be called out. Political leaders need to be held accountable for what they say or do regardless of what other leaders are doing around them.

And then to further show IK in a positive light, Hamza then continued to talk about the PTI leader's achievements and his contribution to society -- but he neglected to realise how a person's noble or well-intentioned acts don't insulate them from blame if they go and say something offensive.

Wrong: Addressing only the word 'phateechar' instead of taking IK's entire statement into context

Hamza chose only to address the word 'phateechar' instead of looking at the larger picture where the political leader dismissed all international cricketers who participated in the PSL. He also threw in a racist comment suggesting that "they'd (PSL) got some (players) from Africa" to play in the league.

The whole issue revolves around the context in which the word was used not just the use of the word.


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Sarmad Hassan Mar 08, 2017 07:16pm

Dear Hamza, you are wrong. Imran has done wrong and should excuse nation on his wrong word.

Naveed Mar 08, 2017 07:16pm

Well done Hamza! It is not acceptable in any context. IK is the former well known cricketer and the leader of a party His statements are more important internationally about the face of country. PSL final in Lahore was an effort against the wave of terrorism. Few international players chose not to come!! Respect please those who played!

Harmony-1© Mar 08, 2017 07:22pm

Many Pak cricketers have not berated IK either like certain sections of media has. In fact they tend to agree with him. So what does that prove?

Nomi Goraya Mar 08, 2017 07:25pm

He has done wrong thing there is no justification for it all the international players crossed so many odds to come to Pakistan for us for our country for revival of cricket which made IK hero. I am all sure that IK will never backtrack from his statement and you are expecting an excuse his EGO is higher than anything no matter it is country pride of country or happiness of masses

Syed amin Mar 08, 2017 07:27pm

Mr. Hamza Imran Khan is political leader. He should think 100 times before speaking . Does not matter his conversation is private or public. He must apologize on these comments.

olive Mar 08, 2017 07:29pm

humza is wrong. imran khan should issue an apology

Sahmad Mar 08, 2017 07:41pm

Even though I don't appreciate selection of IK words about foreign players. Does it mean that because of this I will disapprove what IK stands for? I don't think so.

ME Mar 08, 2017 07:44pm

Totally agree with the content of this video. We should not make a non issue an issue while we have such big issues in our hands.

Zohaib Mar 08, 2017 07:45pm

Phateechar means useless. Does not seem a bad word to me. People use this word everyday in day to day life in Karachi. My mom says to me everytime that you have bought phateechar or bekaar vegetables today. I don't understand what is the issue here..

Asad khan Mar 08, 2017 07:46pm

Did he say about all the foreign players? WRONG!!!!!!!! It was about that bunch of players who joined Gladiators n I am sure even the people who are that much vocal they too have to consult books for their identity. And on top of all IK said this "Off the Record".

Junaid Mar 08, 2017 07:49pm

Unfortunately, Hamza lacks the mind and the ability to think rationally. He has proved that so many times already and doing so yet again. Yes his arguments are completely flawed and a person with even slightest of reasoning ability can understand this.

SALMAN ZAHEER Mar 08, 2017 07:51pm

In my opinion there was nothing wrong with Imran Khan's use of word 'phateechar' for players of low calibre who actually could not add any value to the game.The idea of inducting foreign players is that the local or young players get an opportunity to play with great cricket players and can learn from them and improve their cricket.In case of PSL final unfortunately this was not the case.And this is where the word 'phateechar' comes in and suits well to the situation. What else you want to call those players who were paid thousand of dollars and were actually left outs from their own national teams.Well, we can call them 'farigh' players or marginal or whatever.It would have been much better if all PSL matches were played in Pakistan and it really didn't matter if foreign players played or not as at least people of Pakistan could have enjoyed cricket at home. P.S.No one actually listens to what hamza ali abbasi says:)

ASIf kahsmiri Mar 08, 2017 07:51pm

Excellent well said Hamza - I am with you on this one 100%.

Junaid Mar 08, 2017 07:52pm

Whatever he speaks do not make any sense!

tahir ahmed Mar 08, 2017 07:53pm

Apologies required

Ashfaq Mar 08, 2017 07:55pm

I agree with you that people use slang language in private conversation exactly the same way you are using the word "gattiya" in this private video.

Uzair Mar 08, 2017 07:55pm

Blindly following your leader doesn't make you a 'neutral' party. Leaders are supposed to lead by example. IK should apologize to the nation and international players and get on with his politics.

Scary Mar 08, 2017 07:58pm

Finally, the press is beginning to see how Imran Khan has failed consistently and constantly to express his leadership qualities, which frankly speaking he has none. It is very important we recognize that Pakistan is on a road to real progress despite obstructions from our enemies abroad and within. We should be very proud to be a Pakistani. We have a long way to go. Yes that to is correct. Let's all get behind our government. On Election Day we can all express our conscience.

ZAHID Mar 08, 2017 07:58pm

Mr. Hamza, we all know that you have a soft corner for PTI so please don't call yourself neutral. IK and PTI spokesperson are still backing the comments so even if these were said off the record, IK and PTI are still standing by these comments.

Bilal Mar 08, 2017 08:03pm

Dear Mr. Abbasi you cannot defend one utterly wrong statement from a world class leader like IK for foreign players. IK really needs to act on "think before he speaks" phrase. And I can smell from miles away that you are biased in this video message and not been neutral at all.

Mohammed Mar 08, 2017 08:19pm

without any argument IK you should have not said like this any way be sportive admit your mistake .

Shahid Mar 08, 2017 08:20pm

Although Imran Khan should have checked his words before speaking, I am sure about one thing: his Africa comment had nothing to do with color of skin but more to do with his perception that world class players come from England and Australia and that Africa has always lacked in cricket talent, just as in Zimbabwe and Kenya.

ashfaf malik Mar 08, 2017 08:44pm

Ik has disappointed his admirers, like me. Seems like coming from a defeated person. Hope, he does not lose his sanity in a kind of personal fight with NS.

SAEED MASOOD Mar 08, 2017 08:51pm

To admit ones wrong and then correct it is a greatness, which Imran Khan will never do, his problem is that he thinks whatever he says is right and this not new with him he used to be the same when he was the captain of Pakistan cricket team. What he should have realized was that all the foreign players visiting were the guests of Pakistan, all of Pakistan, he may say anything to the Government or Sethi but not the visiting players. He is not a politician he is a hard headed man who harms himself more that anybody else.

mians shoaib Mar 08, 2017 09:02pm

@ME great? he was insulting guests mean he was discouraging them. then what is difference in IK and those............and u say its a non issue

Dr. Tankra Mar 08, 2017 09:07pm

@Sarmad Hassan - How many of your politicians have excused after abusing one another LIVE in talk shows while YOU were watching with all your family? Is 'Phateechar' really such a 'gaali'?

Farrukh Arshad Mar 08, 2017 09:13pm

He's got a strong point. Kudos to Hamza.

Ali Mar 08, 2017 09:16pm

Hamza, you are terribly wrong. And by defending this absurd statement, you have joined the disappointing IK.

Zohaib Mahmmod Mar 08, 2017 09:31pm

Very rightly said. Totally agreed with Hamza. We have bigger problems at hand, enormous than "PHATEECHAR". A serious course correction required by the nation, before its too late.

junaid Mar 08, 2017 09:36pm

Well HAmza, I have the same stance. I like it more from 7:38 min to onward. We ARE EMOTIONAL PEOPLE, AND lost the courage to differentiate between right and wrong, we have become selfish, KOI NAHN MERA KAAM HO JAY BAQI SAB KHAIR HAY, Yes, when Hafeez not performing in past few months and matches, the whole country decorating him with 'Honorable words', how about Umer Akmal, and the great Ahmad Shahzad. OK, If IK word Phateechar is wrong then What! sometimes I think, Edhi, IK etc are fighting for such mindset of people.

Rizwan Mar 08, 2017 09:39pm

@Dr. Tankra, humza abbasi n all others justifying IK's comments, if pti likes the word phateecher so much that than why not make it part of your party name afterall your politics todate has proven to be a living example of the said word. Lastly humza abbasi, you don't say i am neutral, your comments prove neutrality. Like many instances before, your comments hv miserably failed to reflect even shadow of neutrality. So stop lying so openly

Fahim Anwar Dar Mar 08, 2017 09:42pm

Spot on, Hamza can never be neutral in his analysis, Two wrongs doesn't make a right Irrespective of other politicians, IK's views off the record or not, once that video became public he should tender his apology like a responsible person, When you have high status in society you need to carry yourself as an ideal for the people, someone who doesn't hesitate to accept the mistake, instead here unfortunately him and his followers are still giving explanations,

khan Mar 08, 2017 09:56pm

Well- done man I salute you . way to go. This nation needs a miracle to get out of the mess it is in now.

Thoroughthinker Mar 08, 2017 10:00pm

A wrong is always wrong and cannot be laundered and cleaned by the best of afterthoughts.

Ali Zaidi Mar 08, 2017 10:11pm

Excellent piece by the author. When will Hamza learn not to let his emotions override his logic? As for Pakistani politics, frankly speaking we are leaderless.

llewelyn Mar 08, 2017 10:27pm

Mr. Abbasi: Cricket is a Gentleman's game and not a Phateechar man' game and IK should know it best. We regard IK highly and will continue but the mistake has been made.

It would have been best to aplogise and then to have videos showing support/justify

Mohammad I. Sheikh Mar 08, 2017 10:28pm

Justification from Hamza is not necessary. Mr. Imran Khan made a mistake and he should apologize.

We still respect him and like him.

Mubbashar Mar 08, 2017 10:34pm

I think this analysis is more painfully flawed than Hamza's.

Fahim Khan Mar 08, 2017 10:44pm

World Cup credit should go to the whole team particularly Javed Miandad; Imran is so arrogant because he thinks he alone has won the world cup for Pakistan.

Akhtar Mar 08, 2017 11:50pm

@Harmony-1© Name those cricketers who agree with IK's racial slurs. I have not heard any who has supported IK's stance.

Akhtar Mar 08, 2017 11:55pm

@Sahmad Just stop supporting somebody blindly.

Akhtar Mar 08, 2017 11:57pm

@Zohaib Players are not vegetables, they are human beings and deserve respect, and IK is not their mother. .

Akhtar Mar 09, 2017 12:02am

@ASIf kahsmiri When Kashmiries were observing black day, IK was celebrating India's independence in Indian Embassy in Pakistan. Keep on supporting Hamza, a staunch supporter of IK.

SMI Mar 09, 2017 12:08am

I think if its hurt the feeling of masses then there is no harm to apologies !! Imran Khan is my leader and he will remain my leader.

Akhtar Mar 09, 2017 12:34am

@SMI Be your own man instead of following someone blindly, u might fall in a ditch with him.

sidra mushtaq Mar 09, 2017 01:03am

i think it is ridiculous to make a big issue on ''phateechar'' word .may be that word is used bcz of slip of tongue...or some other reason ,but we should not make it so big

Imran ghumman Mar 09, 2017 01:10am

Hahahahahahaha....total maddness

Nadeem Malhi Mar 09, 2017 01:12am

I think this article criticizing Hamza Abbasi video is painfully flawed and biased.

Sajid Mar 09, 2017 01:48am

IK was right and is right. He is a politician who has a great vision for Pakistan. Good on Hamza Abbasi coming upfront and supporting IK. At least He is not supporting likes of Sharif family, corrupt involved in Panama and drilled trillions of dollars from Pakistani for personal benefits.

Roman Afroz Mar 09, 2017 02:09am

Like leader like followers.... neither IK think before he say something nore do his blind followers like Mr. Abbasi. Politician get mature and more responsible with the passage of time but unfortunately it's the other way around for IK. The worst part is IK and PTI feel proud that they have educated blind flowers followers who can jump from building top if IK say so. It's very unfortunate!

Ali Mar 09, 2017 02:16am

Imran Khan is basically Trump of Pakistan and his supporters defend him the way Trump's supporters defend him; When Trump's video got leaked in which he was making disgusting comments about women, his supporters were saying same thing what Hamza is saying that it's a locker room talk, everyone makes comments in private, don't make non-issue an issue, blah bah blah .... I used to be a big supporter of Imran Khan but then I realized that his focus is just to become a prime minister and get power, and for that he can go to any low

siddiq karim Mar 09, 2017 02:25am

imran khan should appologize and move on .what he said was wrong and demeaning. he is a better person than that.

JA-Australia Mar 09, 2017 02:34am

Hamza is right to distinguish between private and public statements. For example, many of us believe that certain prominent Pakistanis have their loyalties compromised by foreign business interests. Saying an opinion in private is one thing, but it is not the same as making a public statement.

OZ Canada Mar 09, 2017 02:37am

Good article. Imran Kahn's statement shouldn't be supported no matter what your political standpoint is. His comments were completely inappropriate. We should all condemn them.

Harmony-1© Mar 09, 2017 02:52am

@Akhtar - Miandad, Mohsin Khan, Abdul Qadir, Sarfraz Nawaz, Amir Sohail etc all came on live TV and said so.

Princess_of_DHUMP Mar 09, 2017 03:13am

@Harmony-1© Not saying anything to avoid being dragged into politics does not mean they agree with him, Genius

Syed Mar 09, 2017 03:29am

I think message from the IK was quite right but choice of words was not good. As a political leader he should be very careful with words.

Aamir Baig Mar 09, 2017 03:53am

Not sure, when we would get a sense to call a wrong thing wrong and right thing right as a good human being. We always tend to defend our leaders even if they have made a mistake and try justifying their mistakes against our conscience by pointing out others.

I don't understand that why we are all (even very educated, mature and experienced people) so enslaved to personalities and not to ideologies.

Being a PTI supporter, I expect much better from Imran Khan. In my honest opinion, he should apologize.

Saeeds Mar 09, 2017 04:05am

You have problem with other they are talking about this thing . But than you make video about the same thing . True IK follower

S Haider Mar 09, 2017 05:30am

I do not know or ever heard of Haza Abbasi. However, after hearing his argument, I am in total agreement with him. He makes lot of sense and we must learn to differentiate between a slight made in private conversation and serious public utterance. It is great deal more importance to deliberate on important national issues that has besieged the country, rather then concentrate on one cricket match and one word of a political leader. Time being incurred on this insignificant matter shows our misplaced priorities.

Huzair Mar 09, 2017 07:03am

It's unfortunate that we have set a higher bar for IK's standards. Forgetting his bigger vision, we always hold on to the smaller mistakes he does. It's a pity.

CRICKET LOVER Mar 09, 2017 07:26am

Great respect for you but you must learn to see the difference between Black and White.

irfan Mar 09, 2017 07:45am

totally agreed with Hamza, media made a big deal.

Dr.Shams Mar 09, 2017 08:53am

Yesterday when I was watching Hamza video after reading Dawn news about IK. I stopped Hamza's video in the mid. Because he was unnecessarily defending IK. If someone do something wrong, they should not hesitate to apologise. Esp. when it comes to public figure like IK. Simple!

Ali Mar 09, 2017 09:12am

@Zohaib , Do you also use this words for your guests.

umair aziz Mar 09, 2017 09:32am

Biggest Mistake = "You analysed his statements"

Correct thing would have been "Just Ignore"

rkqALANDAR Mar 09, 2017 09:58am

@Zohaib with due respect, you and your mum are not the third largest political party in the country with a tag of justice in your name whereas the people who have been ridiculed are not vegetables from Gutter Bagheecha of Malir. They are humans and great ones as they have acquired it through hard work over the course of time. This is what is wrong Zohaib.

Hassan Mar 09, 2017 10:13am

My thoughts, word for word!

"IK's remarks were made in a private space and so, should not be judged"

You know I find this fragile form of defense really interesting. I was immediately reminded of that leaked footage of Donald Trump speaking "in private" with Billy Bush about grabbing women in inappropriate places, which the Trump surrogates later conveniently labeled "locker room talk" and wanted people to shut up about.

My, oh my. Can't decide if IK or DT anymore.

amir shahzad Mar 09, 2017 10:23am

Trying to justify the statement of IK hrough Hamza Abbasi but all justifications in veins.

Khan Mar 09, 2017 10:23am

This Hamza guy talks a lot but does not know how to make an argument.

Neutral_Pakistani Mar 09, 2017 10:34am

Hamza ali abbasi has got PHd in Politics from PTI... and he is saying his views are as neutral Pakistani.... wao

Neutral Mar 09, 2017 10:40am

@ashfaf malik Africal Lacks Cricket skills....Since when have you been watching cricket

Tunda thakur Mar 09, 2017 11:50am

If ego and use of words like oye and phateechar is all that anyone can find wrong with IK then I would still prefer him over majority of main stream politicians. On a general note to PTI supporters, there is no point defending a wrong action. Please accept that this was not a wise choice of words and move forward

DIJA Mar 09, 2017 12:07pm

Trying to defend something that was not appropriate is yet another blunder!

ALANORE Mar 09, 2017 01:06pm

I think Hamza over reacted. The media was making a big deal of Imrans off the record remark not the Pakistanies.

Parvez Mar 09, 2017 02:00pm

When something is wrong.......its wrong.
One's stature does not diminish by admitting one's wrong ....... it actually improves.

Syed irfan ali Mar 09, 2017 02:01pm

Totally agree with Images. It's like blindly following a leader without having your own opinion what is right or wrong.

Adil Ashraf Mar 09, 2017 02:44pm

Look ! this was the problem with Altaf Hussain followers as well. They try to defend every nonsense of him. Hope PTI shouldn't become the next MQM.... Hamain manzil nahi rehnuma chahiye.......

Democrate1 Mar 09, 2017 03:00pm

just one word " phateechar" cannot undo IK 's long, hard struggle fight mass corruption, misappropriation in national funds and other irregularities that has ruined the whole nation. yes originating from cricket fraternity he should not have used this word.

Usman Mar 09, 2017 03:45pm

Some people are calling it merely a casual "one word" by IK. Many in Pakistan have already recognized the true self of IK and others are in process of doing it. People like Hamza Ali Abbasi will probably never join this group

Alex Mar 09, 2017 04:18pm

@Sarmad Hassan 'Nation' on Social media only....not a concern elsewhere

saleem Mar 09, 2017 05:02pm

IK khan can go to any extent against NAWAZ even if it harm the image of our country. sometimes i think how will we defend him if IK became our prime minister.

Sarfaraz baig Mar 09, 2017 05:06pm

Dear Abbasi,

A politician dosn't have any private conversation. A politician thinking is in background or in front of anyone should be the same otherwise he is not the genuine leader if he claims.

Amna Mar 10, 2017 01:48am

Yes Hamza Ali Abbasi - Is IS a big deal.

If you want to be a leader you have to be a role model and observe a certain code of ethics and decorum at all times. The Quaid would never have uttered such words.

Be the change you want to see - Imran Khan

hore choopo Mar 10, 2017 06:30am

I often criticise Imran over certain issues. However, the comments of Imran on players from Africa have nothing to do with racism.By Africa he meant infamous places.From phateecher he meant out of form and mediocre players.Final in Lahore was boring and one sided due to departure of good players of Quetta gladiators.It was good luck that nothing adverse took place in Lahore that day.We should be objective and impartial in commenting on others.Imran is emotional and tactless. But no one in Pakistan matches his honesty,sincerity and boldness.

Adnan Khan Mar 10, 2017 12:38pm

with respect, imran khan disrespect our guest who came to Pakistan to bring smile on our nation face. I hate pmln & all political parties in Pakistan please don't make this issue politicize. IK should apologize to the foreigner players.

Waqas Ahmed Mar 11, 2017 12:29am

Bravo Hamza! Brilliant arguments. You are such a rare gem coming from a showbiz industry where most of the people are lost in the glamour and their own bubble. You are brave and logical, willing to put everything at stake to stand on the right.

KB Mar 12, 2017 02:28pm

Very good Hamza super work, bravo....but grow moustache again please.